Does everybody who speaks publicly need a checklist to implicitly state, each and every time they speak, to denounce certain things, based on other people's scorecards, or state their support for other things, based on what the cause du jour is?
While Trump has cause many a kerfluffle over stupid things he's said, he has explicitly denounced the White Supremacist groups.
That's not condemning white supremacy. That's just condemning the attacker. Though I'm glad he did so.
"No win for Trump is allowed"
It's funny that you say that because Hillary was in the same boat. No win for Hillary was allowed. She was called everything bad in the book and yet no Republican would ever agree to anything positive. She agreed that the private server was wrong but that did not help. What you are saying is hypocritical.
By the same token, there was a long history of Hillary helping Women and Children, so at least she wasn't as bad as she was vilified for. There is no long history of Trump doing anything good for anyone but himself. He himself has admitted that he took advantage of every single rule in the book to his benefit.
Like the adage says, "if there is smoke there usually is a fire" and "if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, it probably is a duck" and like a famous quote says "the only thing worse than a liar is a hypocritical liar."
Trump is earning the vilification and not the other way around.
That slate is calling trump a racist? Not even mildly surprised.Is anyone really surprised?
https://slate.com/news-and-politics...nti-semitic-attacks-on-twitter-instagram.html
''The ADL report notes that there seems to be a clear connection between the election of Donald Trump and the rise of anti-Semitism online."
That slate is calling trump a racist? Not even mildly surprised.
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I didn't know that you know her personally and can unequivocally call her an idiot! Then again, let me ask "do you know her personally"? Can you give us examples of other idiotic things she has done (like Trump has done many times)?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Do you know President Trump personally?
Your conclusion that Trump is "earning the vilification" does not even follow your argument, which for some reason is an off-point red herring complaint about Hillary Clinton's reputation being undeserved, and her own "no win" situation.
That said you did a poor job in attempting a comparison; this has nothing to do with agreeing whether she did or did not do anything positive in the eyes of critics, the issue is the critics intentional "damned if you do and damn'ed if you don't" disingenuous framing. Clinton was never damned for her semi-regret in retrospect, except in so far it failed to acknowledge her unlawful conduct and intentional misdeed.
Do you know President Trump personally?
Oh yes, I do know Trump personally. He has been in my living room every day for the past 2+ years. I know that he has a high ego, loves to grab women's ******s, separated mothers from their children and never bothered to keep records as to where they were sent (lost forever), hates Democrats, changes his mind on a dime, is very unhappy about anyone that doesn't pay him lip service, thinks he can do it all by himself, bankrupted 6 companies, failed to pay his workers (3500 of them), scammed people with his online College, slept with at least 2 other women, one of which he slept with when his wife was pregnant, loves Putin and Kim Yung-un, walks with toilet paper stuck in his shoes..............Do you want me to go on?
I know him well.
It really does not matter in the minds of the haters and their media how many times Trump condemns such acts, it will not be presented in the positive light it is intended, the will always be a “but”.
Trump said:I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes.... Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else... Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that's guy's lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.
Trump said:You had some very bad people in that group [in KKK Charlottesville rally], but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides
Trump said:I have had horrible rulings, I have been treated unfairly by this judge ... Now this judge is of Mexican heritage, I'm building a wall.
Trump said:Why are we having all these people from ****hole countries come here?
Trump said:They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
You mean to tell that in your entire life no one has told you something that you know in your gut is a lie?
There is condemnation and then there is real condemnation. It is like watching someone that truly believes in what they are saying and watching someone that is just saying the political correct thing to say. If you know anything about people you know this.
It is like all the emails that we all get that we have won the UK lottery for millions of dollars or the great opportunity from Nigeria to be a representative for them in your community and all you have to do is send a check. All words that sound great but are all fake and a scam. Do you fall for them? Do you know what is real and what is not? Trump is all about "words" but then he is such a liar that you cannot believe any of them, even if true.............which in this case are not.
Actually since Trump is now a known pathological liar, there is nothing he can say that will be believed, meaning the only thing he can do is actions against such people.
He is known to be a street fighter so then stop street fighting the Democrats and start street fighting the White Supremacists, the Jewish haters and those that act against innocent people. Street fight them, don't talk about them. Mobilize don't verbalize.
and by the way Felix, since you are a Trump supporter I am sure you have seen him talk at his rallies and how he talks with such verve and conviction about the Democrats and about those he dislikes. You can actually feel the strength when he is talking in this rallies about his political enemies. Have you ever once seen him talk with the same verve and conviction about White Supremacists or Jewish Killers?
Did you watch just yesterday when he was talking about the Jewish killings and then made a comment about having a "bad hair day"? Does that show focus and conviction about the problem? It doesn't to me.
I would say that this is more demonstrative of confirmation bias. If you are to presume that everything that someone says is insincere, or, even if sincere, has sinister motivations behind it, then everything that one says will come off as insincere and sinister.
I agree. One reason among many that I did not vote for Donald Trump was because he was too casual and coy with white supremacists like David Duke and casually flirted with the white nationalist Alt Right. It must be asked what Donald Trump does in response to these hate crimes. In this case, Donald Trump’s Department of Justice is seeking the death penalty against this monster. Which as far as condemnation goes literally does not get any stronger than that. In countries in which the head of government is alright with massacres of ethnic minorities and political opponents, the people who carry out these attacks are somehow never found by the thorough police investigations. See Russia, or Turkey, or Venezuela for examples.
Actually, Luckyone, I rarely listen to what Trump says. I generally only go back and listen to his statements to determine whether his statements are being distorted by mainstream media outlets whose overall animus towards the man is just as naked and partisan towards Trump as his animus towards them. If one is determined to believe Trump is an absolute heartless monster, one can find evidence for it. Much the same way as the people who believed Barack Obama was a foreign-born plant who wished to destroy America from the inside, and believed that the color of the suits he chose was proof positive of it. Seek and ye shall find.
Trump hung those signs on some his housing projects back in the 70's..Got sued,lost,settled for doing it, too.
In years gone by it was not uncommon on pub doors to see the following sign " No Blacks, No Dogs, No Irish". Thank God things have moved on, as many pubs now allow dogs in :lol:
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