Trump may have left DC but his beefs with FBI and CIA simmer among his House allies....

[Subieguy]

as we all know Trump was NOT a fan of U.S. institutions and this includes our intelligence. How many times did he take Russia's intel over America's??? Quite a few that I can recall.
Traitorous as far as I am concerned. WE have NEVER had a President do this, and hopefully we never again will.

How clueless can they be? :


At last week's House hearing on the top threats to national security, Republican after Republican grilled intelligence agency leaders not about Russia, China or North Korea — but about a series of niche issues with which only ardent consumers of right-wing news sources would be conversant. The lawmakers made it clear that they had little trust in America's security agencies.


"I'm telling you, if an FBI agent came up and asked to talk to me, there's no way in the world I would talk to them without a lawyer present. I don't care what they wanted to know," Rep. Chris Stewart of Utah told FBI Director Christopher Wray, a lifelong Republican appointed by Trump.



GOP used to embrace national security until Trump came along....


For most of the post-World War II era, Republicans embraced the national security state and particularly the FBI, a law enforcement agency whose members, by their own accounts, have tended to lean right in their politics.

The Trump presidency changed that. Under FBI investigation for much of his presidency, Trump referred to FBI agents as "scum" who "destroyed the lives of people" and branded as "rats" people who cooperated with law enforcement. His Republican allies followed his lead.

Now, even with Trump gone, his skepticism of intelligence agencies, including the FBI, which collects intelligence on domestic terrorism threats, appears to be holding on in Republican circles.



GOP used to embrace national security.

 

[Mycroft]

as we all know Trump was NOT a fan of U.S. institutions and this includes our intelligence. How many times did he take Russia's intel over America's??? Quite a few that I can recall.
Traitorous as far as I am concerned. WE have NEVER had a President do this, and hopefully we never again will.

How clueless can they be? :


At last week's House hearing on the top threats to national security, Republican after Republican grilled intelligence agency leaders not about Russia, China or North Korea — but about a series of niche issues with which only ardent consumers of right-wing news sources would be conversant. The lawmakers made it clear that they had little trust in America's security agencies.


"I'm telling you, if an FBI agent came up and asked to talk to me, there's no way in the world I would talk to them without a lawyer present. I don't care what they wanted to know," Rep. Chris Stewart of Utah told FBI Director Christopher Wray, a lifelong Republican appointed by Trump.



GOP used to embrace national security until Trump came along....


For most of the post-World War II era, Republicans embraced the national security state and particularly the FBI, a law enforcement agency whose members, by their own accounts, have tended to lean right in their politics.

The Trump presidency changed that. Under FBI investigation for much of his presidency, Trump referred to FBI agents as "scum" who "destroyed the lives of people" and branded as "rats" people who cooperated with law enforcement. His Republican allies followed his lead.

Now, even with Trump gone, his skepticism of intelligence agencies, including the FBI, which collects intelligence on domestic terrorism threats, appears to be holding on in Republican circles.



GOP used to embrace national security.

You can thank Obama for the attitude of those Congressmen. He is the one who weaponized the entire Executive Branch for his own political purposes. Heck, he even had the CIA conducting covert surveillance on Congress.

 

[Subieguy]

You can thank Obama for the attitude of those Congressmen. He is the one who weaponized the entire Executive Branch for his own political purposes. Heck, he even had the CIA conducting covert surveillance on Congress.

delusional. TRump SHOULD have been investigated by the FBI/CIA for colluding with an enemy in the 2016 election. Ooops!!!!

 

[eohrnberger]

delusional. TRump SHOULD have been investigated by the FBI/CIA for colluding with an enemy in the 2016 election. Ooops!!!!

"delusional" Really?

A Brief History of the CIA's Unpunished Spying on the Senate ...​

https://www.theatlantic.com › archive › 2014/12 › a-bri...​

Dec 23, 2014 — President Obama's choice to lead the intelligence agency has ... This is the story of John Brennan's CIA spying on Congress and getting away ...​

CIA admits to spying on Senate staffers | US politics | The ...​

https://www.theguardian.com › world › jul › cia-admits...​

Jul 31, 2014 — “The CIA unconstitutionally spied on Congress by hacking into Senate intelligence committee computers. This grave misconduct is not only ...​

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Obama knew CIA secretly monitored intelligence committee ...​

https://www.theguardian.com › world › mar › obama-ci...​

Mar 5, 2014 — Udall, a Colorado Democrat and one of the CIA's leading pursuers on the committee, appeared to reference that surreptitious spying on Congress ...​

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Obama defends CIA chief after agency spied on Senate ...​

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Aug 1, 2014 — Obama defends CIA chief after agency spied on Senate ... Barack Obama jumped to the defence of his CIA director John Brennan who is facing ...​

 

[Integrityrespec]

as we all know Trump was NOT a fan of U.S. institutions and this includes our intelligence. How many times did he take Russia's intel over America's??? Quite a few that I can recall.
Traitorous as far as I am concerned. WE have NEVER had a President do this, and hopefully we never again will.

How clueless can they be? :


At last week's House hearing on the top threats to national security, Republican after Republican grilled intelligence agency leaders not about Russia, China or North Korea — but about a series of niche issues with which only ardent consumers of right-wing news sources would be conversant. The lawmakers made it clear that they had little trust in America's security agencies.


"I'm telling you, if an FBI agent came up and asked to talk to me, there's no way in the world I would talk to them without a lawyer present. I don't care what they wanted to know," Rep. Chris Stewart of Utah told FBI Director Christopher Wray, a lifelong Republican appointed by Trump.



GOP used to embrace national security until Trump came along....


For most of the post-World War II era, Republicans embraced the national security state and particularly the FBI, a law enforcement agency whose members, by their own accounts, have tended to lean right in their politics.

The Trump presidency changed that. Under FBI investigation for much of his presidency, Trump referred to FBI agents as "scum" who "destroyed the lives of people" and branded as "rats" people who cooperated with law enforcement. His Republican allies followed his lead.

Now, even with Trump gone, his skepticism of intelligence agencies, including the FBI, which collects intelligence on domestic terrorism threats, appears to be holding on in Republican circles.



GOP used to embrace national security.

We all also know that the "intellignce" organizations were part of the completely falsified Trump Russia Collusion myth. Why would Trump trust them after that? Add to that the FISA warrant mess, which included some of those intelligence organizations, then the cover up of Bidens Ukraine mess, and on and on. No sensible person is going to be totally trusting of that group.

 

[tres borrachos]

as we all know Trump was NOT a fan of U.S. institutions and this includes our intelligence. How many times did he take Russia's intel over America's??? Quite a few that I can recall.
Traitorous as far as I am concerned. WE have NEVER had a President do this, and hopefully we never again will.

How clueless can they be? :


At last week's House hearing on the top threats to national security, Republican after Republican grilled intelligence agency leaders not about Russia, China or North Korea — but about a series of niche issues with which only ardent consumers of right-wing news sources would be conversant. The lawmakers made it clear that they had little trust in America's security agencies.


"I'm telling you, if an FBI agent came up and asked to talk to me, there's no way in the world I would talk to them without a lawyer present. I don't care what they wanted to know," Rep. Chris Stewart of Utah told FBI Director Christopher Wray, a lifelong Republican appointed by Trump.



GOP used to embrace national security until Trump came along....


For most of the post-World War II era, Republicans embraced the national security state and particularly the FBI, a law enforcement agency whose members, by their own accounts, have tended to lean right in their politics.

The Trump presidency changed that. Under FBI investigation for much of his presidency, Trump referred to FBI agents as "scum" who "destroyed the lives of people" and branded as "rats" people who cooperated with law enforcement. His Republican allies followed his lead.

Now, even with Trump gone, his skepticism of intelligence agencies, including the FBI, which collects intelligence on domestic terrorism threats, appears to be holding on in Republican circles.



GOP used to embrace national security.

Speaking of the FBI, where is the Durham Report that the citizens of Trump Fan Nation have been telling us is coming any day now...you know, the report that was going to result in the arrests of Obama and Clapper and Brennan and all them?

 

[j brown's body]

Most of the procedures the GOP is complaining about now were used for years before Trump came along. The GOP never had any trouble with them then, and they helped write many of them into law.

 

[j brown's body]

We all also know that the "intellignce" organizations were part of the completely falsified Trump Russia Collusion myth. Why would Trump trust them after that? Add to that the FISA warrant mess, which included some of those intelligence organizations, then the cover up of Bidens Ukraine mess, and on and on. No sensible person is going to be totally trusting of that group.

Are you honestly unaware that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia?

 

[The AntiDonald]

as we all know Trump was NOT a fan of U.S. institutions and this includes our intelligence. How many times did he take Russia's intel over America's??? Quite a few that I can recall.
Traitorous as far as I am concerned. WE have NEVER had a President do this, and hopefully we never again will.

How clueless can they be? :


At last week's House hearing on the top threats to national security, Republican after Republican grilled intelligence agency leaders not about Russia, China or North Korea — but about a series of niche issues with which only ardent consumers of right-wing news sources would be conversant. The lawmakers made it clear that they had little trust in America's security agencies.


"I'm telling you, if an FBI agent came up and asked to talk to me, there's no way in the world I would talk to them without a lawyer present. I don't care what they wanted to know," Rep. Chris Stewart of Utah told FBI Director Christopher Wray, a lifelong Republican appointed by Trump.



GOP used to embrace national security until Trump came along....


For most of the post-World War II era, Republicans embraced the national security state and particularly the FBI, a law enforcement agency whose members, by their own accounts, have tended to lean right in their politics.

The Trump presidency changed that. Under FBI investigation for much of his presidency, Trump referred to FBI agents as "scum" who "destroyed the lives of people" and branded as "rats" people who cooperated with law enforcement. His Republican allies followed his lead.

Now, even with Trump gone, his skepticism of intelligence agencies, including the FBI, which collects intelligence on domestic terrorism threats, appears to be holding on in Republican circles.



GOP used to embrace national security.

One Word

CULT

 

[Mycroft]

delusional. TRump SHOULD have been investigated by the FBI/CIA for colluding with an enemy in the 2016 election. Ooops!!!!

He was...and they found nothing.

But that doesn't negate Obama's actions.

btw, Obama is continuing his actions now. He is Biden's puppet master, you know. Hell, he has even weaponized the Post Office.

 

[j brown's body]

He was...and they found nothing.

But that doesn't negate Obama's actions.

btw, Obama is continuing his actions now. He is Biden's puppet master, you know. Hell, he has even weaponized the Post Office.

The Mueller investigation was extremely limited in scope and his witnesses were constantly fed clam juice by our gangster president.

Nevertheless, the investigation hardly cleared Trump.

 

[Mycroft]

The Mueller investigation was extremely limited in scope and his witnesses were constantly fed clam juice by our gangster president.

Nevertheless, the investigation hardly cleared Trump.

Nonsense.

Mueller's scope was limited in the beginning, but was widened three freaking times. Hell, prosecuting Manafort, Cohen and others for stuff that had nothing to do with Trump, even. And he spent over two freaking years at it.

And yes...he found NOTHING on Trump.

That was Obama's weaponized DOJ/FBI at work.

 

[j brown's body]

Nonsense.

Mueller's scope was limited in the beginning, but was widened three freaking times. Hell, prosecuting Manafort, Cohen and others for stuff that had nothing to do with Trump, even. And he spent over two freaking years at it.

And yes...he found NOTHING on Trump.

That was Obama's weaponized DOJ/FBI at work.

Nice that you don't argue that our gangster president fed their witnesses clam juice.

The only interest Trump ever had jn corruption in the DOJ was how he could use it himself. Fortunately, he was too lazy to make much of it.

As far as the narrow reach of the Mueller investigation:

" "Do your job and then shut it down," Rosenstein allegedly told Mueller, according to a book by journalist Jeffrey Toobin, with Andrew McCabe, the acting bureau director at the time, telling the Times that limiting the focus to crimes runs counter to an investigation over national security, including potential compromise financial relationships."

Report: Justice Department Quietly Limited Robert Mueller's Russia Investigation

Former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein privately narrowed the focus of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russia's effort to get President Trump elected in 2016, according to a New York Times report.

www.forbes.com

 

[Lisa]

We all also know that the "intellignce" organizations were part of the completely falsified Trump Russia Collusion myth. Why would Trump trust them after that? Add to that the FISA warrant mess, which included some of those intelligence organizations, then the cover up of Bidens Ukraine mess, and on and on. No sensible person is going to be totally trusting of that group.

Bill Barr didn't tell the truth when he claimed that there was no collusion,

Attorney General William Barr’s message at a press conference Thursday morning was crystal clear: There was “no collusion” between the Russian government and Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign.


While Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation found that Russia interfered in the election in an effort to undermine the Clinton campaign, no one in Trump’s orbit — or “any American” for that matter, Barr added — knowingly assisted Russia in that effort.


But while Mueller may not have found any evidence that Trump associates conspired with Russia to interfere in the election, they nonetheless had a lot of contact with Russians leading up to Election Day. In fact, investigators have found that Trump and at least 17 of his campaign officials and advisors had more than 100 contacts between Trump associates and Russians, belying the campaign’s November 2016 claim that “there was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign.” According to reporting, many others associated with Trump were told about contacts with Russian-linked individuals.

Here Are All the Times Donald Trump and His Associates Intersected With Russians

The Attorney General said the Mueller report found no evidence of collusion, but Trump associates still had a lot of contact with Russians.

time.com

 

[Subieguy]

He was...and they found nothing.

But that doesn't negate Obama's actions.

btw, Obama is continuing his actions now. He is Biden's puppet master, you know. Hell, he has even weaponized the Post Office.

other than he was working with an enemy in an election year which is ILLEGAL> OOOPS!!!

 

[Subieguy]

Nonsense.

Mueller's scope was limited in the beginning, but was widened three freaking times. Hell, prosecuting Manafort, Cohen and others for stuff that had nothing to do with Trump, even. And he spent over two freaking years at it.

And yes...he found NOTHING on Trump.

That was Obama's weaponized DOJ/FBI at work.

oh your soooo wrong. Were it not for the fact TRump was a sitting President he would have been indicted!!!! Big OOOPS!!!! Trump committed obstruction of justice multiple times. OOoops again!

 

[Subieguy]

Are you honestly unaware that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia?

The 2 big signs of someone under the TRump Cult are severe cases of DENIAL and IGNORANCE.

 

[Subieguy]

Nonsense.

Mueller's scope was limited in the beginning, but was widened three freaking times. Hell, prosecuting Manafort, Cohen and others for stuff that had nothing to do with Trump, even. And he spent over two freaking years at it.

And yes...he found NOTHING on Trump.

That was Obama's weaponized DOJ/FBI at work.

educate yourself:

Five Things I Learned From the Mueller Report

A careful reading of the dense document delivers some urgent insights.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Mycroft]

Nice that you don't argue that our gangster president fed their witnesses clam juice.

The only interest Trump ever had jn corruption in the DOJ was how he could use it himself. Fortunately, he was too lazy to make much of it.

As far as the narrow reach of the Mueller investigation:

" "Do your job and then shut it down," Rosenstein allegedly told Mueller, according to a book by journalist Jeffrey Toobin, with Andrew McCabe, the acting bureau director at the time, telling the Times that limiting the focus to crimes runs counter to an investigation over national security, including potential compromise financial relationships."

Report: Justice Department Quietly Limited Robert Mueller's Russia Investigation

Former Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein privately narrowed the focus of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russia's effort to get President Trump elected in 2016, according to a New York Times report.

www.forbes.com

I don't give a **** what Forbes, Toobin or McCabe says. They are all manipulators and liars.

It's no wonder you don't know what you are talking about...you believe that nonsense.

I keep telling you and others...don't listen to what they say, look at what they do.

 

[Mycroft]

other than he was working with an enemy in an election year which is ILLEGAL> OOOPS!!!

That's bullshit and you would know it if you didn't listen to the shit the media has fed you.

 

[Mycroft]

educate yourself:

Five Things I Learned From the Mueller Report

A careful reading of the dense document delivers some urgent insights.

www.theatlantic.com

I don't give a **** what The Atlantic says, either. Just more Trump hating shit.

 

[Mycroft]

oh your soooo wrong. Were it not for the fact TRump was a sitting President he would have been indicted!!!! Big OOOPS!!!! Trump committed obstruction of justice multiple times. OOoops again!

Nope.

Hell, Congress couldn't even get rid of him over "obstruction of justice". There was none.

Jesus...

Dude...your hatred is boring me...you are dismissed.

 

[Subieguy]

Nope.

Hell, Congress couldn't even get rid of him over "obstruction of justice". There was none.

Jesus...

Dude...your hatred is boring me...you are dismissed.

wrong again. The House did but the Senate run by then Moscow Mitch refused to take it up. OOops.....you are truly in denial of the facts. You should read the Mueller Report. I did. If your going to put out dis/mis information then expect a rebuttal.

 

[Subieguy]

That's bullshit and you would know it if you didn't listen to the shit the media has fed you.

and you would know it if you didn't likely listen to the hard right media. Ooops!!!!

 

[Subieguy]

I don't give a **** what Forbes, Toobin or McCabe says. They are all manipulators and liars.

It's no wonder you don't know what you are talking about...you believe that nonsense.

I keep telling you and others...don't listen to what they say, look at what they do.

hypocrite alert!!!! So they are liars, and TRump???