Trump Literally Just Murdered 11 People In A Small Boat Off The Coast Of Venezuela....Completely Insane

[lwf]

Terrific! What barbarism! Yours is straight from the Medieval Ordeal by Water, wherein an accused was cast into water, if he sank he was innocent, if he floated he was guilty; except your is more barbaric. Sink the boat and kill everyone in it: if you hear nothing anymore about them then they were narco traffickers! Gracious me!

I wasn't speaking from the Navy's perspective; I was speaking from the perspective of a layman observer. Obviously, the US Navy needs to do its due diligence. Unfortunately, it's unlikely we will be privy to the intelligence they had on this strike. All we can do is wait and see how it plays out.

 

[lwf]

What investigation? Do you think Donald believes that you or anyone else is entitled to an investigation?

The investigation that will be conducted by the Venezuelans and any other third party who is interested.

 

[lwf]

You don't see this as a very slippery slope? Even when it came to Pablo Escobar, they tried to arrest him... not assassinate him.

I agree that the boat should have been captured. Whether or not this was possible is an open question. Sometimes it isn't. In this case, if capture was possible, then this is the route they should have taken. My guess is they concluded capture wasn't possible.

 

[cpwill]

I thought of that. It sometimes looks as if he is manipulating Democrats into taking "sides" with unpopular causes.

I'm not sure that I'd give him enough credit to think of that and pull it off, though.

He has a real animal cunning. I think it entirely credible that he is completely a creature of unrestrained impulsive instinct, and entirely credible he realizes that by taking one side of an 80/20 issue, he can push Democrats into taking the other.

 

[vanceen]

He has a real animal cunning. I think it entirely credible that he is completely a creature of unrestrained impulsive instinct, and entirely credible he realizes that by taking one side of an 80/20 issue, he can push Democrats into taking the other.

That may be.

It seems to me that it would be ridiculously easy for Democrats to counter that. Don't react, don't be seen as championing drug runners or illegal immigrants. Just say what you want to actually do, focusing on bread and butter issues and improving things for the middle class. They would win every election.

And yet I overhear them telling each other that they haven't been aggressive enough in reacting to Trump. Wow.

 

[jpn]

I don't think there's been a meaningful shift in policy direction between the Biden and Trump admins as far as foreign policy is concerned.

Well, the NATO nations would disagree. So would Ukraine. So would India. Actually, the list is quite long.

You may have been making a narrower point in that the U.S. has been killing enemies overseas without legal process with some regularity since 9/11. And before that, as well, only on a more limited basis.

 

[Airyaman]

This is what MAGA supports?!?

 

[Gozaburo]

Well, the NATO nations would disagree. So would Ukraine. So would India. Actually, the list is quite long.

India is debatable, but in any case there haven't been substantive changes. I'll concede that while the Trump regime has been rhetorically harsh to NATO and Ukraine (mostly thanks to Vance), we seem to set to continue and even extend the Biden regime's Ukraine policy. Keep in mind that it was under Trump that we even started selling lethal arms to Ukraine, something Obama refused to do.

You may have been making a narrower point in that the U.S. has been killing enemies overseas without legal process with some regularity since 9/11. And before that, as well, only on a more limited basis.

I'm just speaking generally about all foreign policy. It wouldn't be possible to manage an empire without a "deep state" having some kind of continuity between regimes.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Trump is going to murder more and more people as his failed policies hurt more and more Americans and as more information comes out about the Epstein report and all the other ****ed up stuff he's involved in.

Because he's the king of diversion. And he doesn't care if it includes murder off the shore of other countries without knowing all the details. Pretty much what Rand Paul said.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

I don't care much when our US Govt bombs away on middle eastern nations

The 542 drone strikes that Obama authorized killed an estimated 3,797 people, including 324 civilians


did you care then ?

We were at war. We weren't bombing tiny random boats in international waters.

Your "argument" is juvenile.

 

[Loulit01]

I have no problems destroying cartels

What does blowing up a little boat have to do with destroying cartels?

I know liberals hate it - they want cartels

Liberals want to focus on the reduction of demand for drugs through education and treatment. Reducing demand is the only way to limit the money cartels make, which is the best way to attack them.

The war on drugs is an epic fail. Blowing up little boat does absolutely nothing but make dumb****s happy.

 

[Airyaman]