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Trump is trashing electric vehicles. China is building cars the world wants. (1 Viewer)

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"China is leapfrogging the United States with the availability of more advanced, cheaper electric vehicles, while President Donald Trump is cutting subsidies and making other moves that could leave the U.S. behind. The president’s antipathy toward plug-ins, combined with the U.S. domestic auto industry’s slow rollout of new clean-energy vehicles, is frustrating U.S. motorists who hunger for clean transportation.

...Trump has declared that the Biden administration’s support for electric cars was a Marxist “hoax” that hurt U.S. autoworkers. He is freezing billions of dollars of spending on electric vehicle infrastructure, ripping out charging stations in government buildings, and reversing regulations that incentivize automakers to focus on plug-in innovation. Subsidies for factories that make batteries and other parts have been blocked, triggering a wave of canceled projects. Tax breaks of $7,500 for purchasing plug-ins are targeted for elimination, although Congress will be required to act on the president’s request. Amid the president’s trade war, meanwhile, Chinese electric cars are unlikely to roll into the United States anytime soon.


The same U.S. auto companies that for years complained vocally about aggressive government actions aimed at speeding the transition to EVs now worry damage from federal abandonment of the transition will be long-lasting. ...“We are all going to EVs globally. It is just a question of when,” said Ellen Hughes-Cromwick, a former chief global economist at Ford. The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, the industry group representing all the major U.S. vehicle manufacturers, urged Trump in a November letter to preserve the tax breaks for EV buyers and emissions rules that push automakers to innovate and sell electric models. Plug-in technology is advancing so rapidly, with longer battery ranges and expanding charging networks, that analysts expect consumer preference for the cars to eventually overtake that of gas vehicles."

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Will Trump's vision, coming from looking through the rear view mirror, cause our automotive industry to crash?
 
"China is leapfrogging the United States with the availability of more advanced, cheaper electric vehicles, while President Donald Trump is cutting subsidies and making other moves that could leave the U.S. behind. The president’s antipathy toward plug-ins, combined with the U.S. domestic auto industry’s slow rollout of new clean-energy vehicles, is frustrating U.S. motorists who hunger for clean transportation.

...Trump has declared that the Biden administration’s support for electric cars was a Marxist “hoax” that hurt U.S. autoworkers. He is freezing billions of dollars of spending on electric vehicle infrastructure, ripping out charging stations in government buildings, and reversing regulations that incentivize automakers to focus on plug-in innovation. Subsidies for factories that make batteries and other parts have been blocked, triggering a wave of canceled projects. Tax breaks of $7,500 for purchasing plug-ins are targeted for elimination, although Congress will be required to act on the president’s request. Amid the president’s trade war, meanwhile, Chinese electric cars are unlikely to roll into the United States anytime soon.


The same U.S. auto companies that for years complained vocally about aggressive government actions aimed at speeding the transition to EVs now worry damage from federal abandonment of the transition will be long-lasting. ...“We are all going to EVs globally. It is just a question of when,” said Ellen Hughes-Cromwick, a former chief global economist at Ford. The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, the industry group representing all the major U.S. vehicle manufacturers, urged Trump in a November letter to preserve the tax breaks for EV buyers and emissions rules that push automakers to innovate and sell electric models. Plug-in technology is advancing so rapidly, with longer battery ranges and expanding charging networks, that analysts expect consumer preference for the cars to eventually overtake that of gas vehicles."

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Will Trump's vision, coming from looking through the rear view mirror, cause our automotive industry to crash?
And democrat supporters, are burning Teslas. LOL. What a great point you brought up though. Stupid F'n order by Obama to force automakers to waste money on EV's cost the manufacturer and customers billions.
 
Did he remove funding from Tesla?
 
Hard for America to compete in the cheap car market when we've piled massive amounts of regulations onto our vehicles.
 
Cheap Chinese vehicles are nothing new.

You can buy a Kawasaki or Yamaha kid-size ATV and pay roughly $4000. Or buy a Chinese knock off for 800 bucks. Guess which one is still running a couple years later.
 
And democrat supporters, are burning Teslas. LOL. What a great point you brought up though. Stupid F'n order by Obama to force automakers to waste money on EV's cost the manufacturer and customers billions.


You think attacking some cars has a worse impact on EV production than government policy does?
 
EVs are the future of personal transportation. We can choose to be a part it ir not. One of the best EV SUVs out there is made by an American company; Rivian. They also make one of the best EV pickup trucks.

I don’t think I we can or should compete with China for the cheap EV market, but we sure can compete at the higher quality levels.
 
EVs are the future of personal transportation. We can choose to be a part it ir not. One of the best EV SUVs out there is made by an American company; Rivian. They also make one of the best EV pickup trucks.

I don’t think I we can or should compete with China for the cheap EV market, but we sure can compete at the higher quality levels.


Unfortunately, Trump policy suggests we will not be competing at all.
 

Trump is trashing electric vehicles. China is building cars the world wants.​

Wait? What?

Didn't KING MAGAT just recently allow the White House to be a promotional showcase commercial site as an electric car dealership?

Hypocrite thy name is Republican!
 

Trump is trashing electric vehicles. China is building cars the world wants.​

Wait? What?

Didn't KING MAGAT just recently allow the White House to be a promotional showcase commercial site as an electric car dealership?

Hypocrite thy name is Republican!
No, that was a promotion of Teslas. All other EVs are to be hated.
 
Hard for America to compete in the cheap car market when we've piled massive amounts of regulations onto our vehicles.
Two things. They only have to manufacture cars to the standards of the country they are selling them in. Second, I'm going to guess you haven't traveled in Asia and Europe much, if you had you would know their roads are not conducive to F150's and SUV's.
 
Two things. They only have to manufacture cars to the standards of the country they are selling them in. Second, I'm going to guess you haven't traveled in Asia and Europe much, if you had you would know their roads are not conducive to F150's and SUV's.

I would have no problem using European roads with my little Chevy Sonic. When I was in Germany, I had no problem in two years of using their roads with my Escort GT, which was slightly larger than my Sonic. American car manufacturers aren't limited to pickup trucks and SUVs. The European tariffs on American cars are intended to protect European manufacturers. I'm not sure there is any such thing as a cheap European car.
 
Progressives certainly aren't going to buy as many Teslas from someone who delights in making them furious. Trade in those luxury stompers and buy up those Teslas, right wingers.
 
I would have no problem using European roads with my little Cheveectivey Sonic. When I was in Germany, I had no problem in two years of using their roads with my Escort GT, which was slightly larger than my Sonic. American car manufacturers aren't limited to pickup trucks and SUVs. The European tariffs on American cars are intended to protect European manufacturers. I'm not sure there is any such thing as a cheap European car.
Yes, I was somewhat tongue in cheek. The only reason there is a tariff on US cars is because the US halted negotiations of the TTIP. All other G7 nations have deals so they don't pay the tariff. The other problem is European cars have much higher/different standards and setting up specialized production lines to satisfy those standards isn't cost effective.
 
Progressives certainly aren't going to buy as many Teslas from someone who delights in making them furious. Trade in those luxury stompers and buy up those Teslas, right wingers.

I really find it hard to imagine buying something like a car because of the idea you're making some sort of statement. But apparently, that is a large part of why "progressives" were buying Teslas.
 
I would have no problem using European roads with my little Chevy Sonic. When I was in Germany, I had no problem in two years of using their roads with my Escort GT, which was slightly larger than my Sonic. American car manufacturers aren't limited to pickup trucks and SUVs. The European tariffs on American cars are intended to protect European manufacturers. I'm not sure there is any such thing as a cheap European car.


The US used to have a tariff of 2.5% on cars and 25% on trucks

The EU had a flat 10%.

How many European trucks have you seen in the US?
 
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I really find it hard to imagine buying something like a car because of the idea you're making some sort of statement. But apparently, that is a large part of why "progressives" were buying Teslas.
Welp, that particular "problem" has been addressed in this case, apparently.
 
The US used to have a tariff of 2.5% on cars and 25% on trucks

The EU had a flat 10%.

How many European trucks have you seen in the US?

Aren't a lot of them assembled in the US to get around those tariffs? I know that when Reagan protected Harley Davidson with a hefty tariff on foreign motorcycles over 700cc, Kawasaki and Honda responded with US production facilities to build their larger bikes, and several sub-700cc models replaced what had previously been sort of a 750cc standard.
 
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Welp, that particular "problem" has been addressed in this case, apparently.

I didn't say it was a problem. I think my post was accurate though, and ironic in light of all the "compensation" posts I often see reference pickup trucks...which of course are NOT exclusively bought by "MAGAs".
 
Will Trump's vision, coming from looking through the rear view mirror, cause our automotive industry to crash?
absolutely.

He only cares about today and we can't compete with China today. It sounds good to the auto worker and the buy American crowd but it will severely hurt us. Thing is, Trump is 80. He won't be with us when we pay the piper.
 

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