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Trump hikes India tariffs to 50% for buying Russian oil

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Trump hikes India tariffs to 50% for buying Russian oil​


President Donald Trump said he was doubling tariffs on India from 25% to 50%.

In an executive order, Trump says "I find that the Government of India is currently directly or indirectly importing Russian Federation oil" and due to those purchases, imports of Indian goods into the United States "shall be subject to an additional ... rate of duty of 25%."

While I despise the orange child rapist, I can actually support his action here.

India has been out of control for far too long.

 
How pathetic..............that he is resorting to using Tariffs as an economic WEAPON........... and destabilizing the economic world even more .........creating chaos , uncertainty, and unpredictability.... He is wrecking international relationships and losing any semblance of stability. This is juvenile and provocative behavior............as if he is provoking antagonism deliberately...... so he can "justify" getting his revenge .
 
Is trump the president of the world? Who is he to tell India what they can and can't do and who they can buy oil from? Ridiculous.
 

And then people want to know why India didn't want to buy the F-35 Fighter.
 
No country is going to bend, through economic coercion, the will of 1.4 billion people who are not more than two generations removed from indentured servitude facilitated by the East India Trading Company.

If you think you can, you are deeply mistaken and know very little about the country.
 
Your point is valid. The Indians are assisting the Russians in their unlawful war of aggression. They need to understand this cannot be tolerated.
 
Your point is valid. The Indians are assisting the Russians in their unlawful war of aggression. They need to understand this cannot be tolerated.
From their perspective, they're surrounded on most of their borders by enemies, they need to provide energy security to 1.4 billion people while not having many natural reserves, and Russia has been a reliable ally and friend for the better part of a century during which time the United States has been the de facto stalwart military ally to Pakistan, the largest proliferator of terrorism on the planet, which has attempted to invade India three times using US-supplied weaponry.

They're not going to take "our" side over Russia especially knowing that a doofus like Donald is in charge and likely to Taco anyway.

Now what I do wish India would do is actually start playing on the world stage, because they are in an absolutely unique position to do so. How many nations are actual friends with both Ukraine and Russia? India. How many nations have signed military and defense agreements with both Iran and Israel? India. So, it infuriates me that they remain so frustratingly non-aligned when really it's India that ought to be hosting the peace summits.
 
This is only going to hasten the coalescing of BRICS and settling payments in something other than the currency with $37 trillion in sovereign claims against the future.
 
Your point is valid. The Indians are assisting the Russians in their unlawful war of aggression. They need to understand this cannot be tolerated.

Yeah, India's like because Russia was always going to win that war anyway and Europe is weakening. Hell their own chief ally and benefactor just humiliated all of Europe for the world to see by making them agree to 15% tariffs, which included shoving a massive purchase of LNG down their throats. India sees the writing on the wall. Europe's weak and the US is, for the moment, still powerful, but our governance is a cartoon.
 
Is trump the president of the world? Who is he to tell India what they can and can't do and who they can buy oil from? Ridiculous.
Trump has been an absolute fool with the tariff thing so far.

But I view this particular tariff in the same category as all the other international sanctions that are punishing nations for providing economic aid and comfort to Russia.

If India had been working on phasing out reliance on Russian oil like Europe has done, then I would disagree with this tariff. But they haven't, so I don't. If they want to keep helping Russia with their complacency then I say **** 'em.
 

It seems to be his answer to everything doesn't it?

 
I think you have things misunderstood about what the ask of India was.

Until just now, America and Europe, going back to the start of the war in 2022, have not only been asking but practically begging India to buy Russian oil. Why? Because oil prices were shooting up and the global economy expected India to do its part to stabilize oil prices by being a customer of Russian crude. India has long coordinated its energy procurement with the west, including weaning itself off of Iranian crude when asked. In this case, the west told India to import Russian oil up until just now because they valued low oil prices more than avoiding "comfort to Russia".

So what's likely being experienced in India right now is simple confusion--basically "uh, you guys were telling us to buy Russian oil as much as possible, and now suddenly you're saying you're going to tariff us because we complied?"

It's nuts.
 
Did any of that begging to buy Russian oil occur after February, 2022? You know why that date changed a lot of things, right?
 
Explain, in detail, why you think India is obligated to be under the control of the United States.

Because gee, that might be a part of the reason why they aren’t remotely interested in listening to America’s whining
 
Blather about “proving aid and comfort to Russia” is utterly meaningless to the rest of the globe while America is proudly aiding a borderline genocide in Gaza.
 
Your point is valid. The Indians are assisting the Russians in their unlawful war of aggression. They need to understand this cannot be tolerated.
The people proudly aiding Israel in carrying out a genocide declaring that “things won’t be tolerated” will be laughed out of the room.
 
Blather about “proving aid and comfort to Russia” is utterly meaningless to the rest of the globe while America is proudly aiding a borderline genocide in Gaza.
The war in Ukraine and the war in Gaza are two extremely different things. I'm allowed to support one while opposing the other. You didn't refute anything I said.
 
The war in Ukraine and the war in Gaza are two extremely different things. I'm allowed to support one while opposing the other. You didn't refute anything I said.
Yeah, according to America civilians dying is bad when it happens in Ukraine and a good thing when it happens in Gaza.

Which is why countries like India aren’t interested in listening to American pontificating.
 
Did any of that begging to buy Russian oil occur after February, 2022? You know why that date changed a lot of things, right?
Yes, it all happened after February 2022. Because you may not be aware of this but a lot of things changed on that date, that caused the West to ask India to increase its importation of Russian oil.
 
Yes, it all happened after February 2022. Because you may not be aware of this but a lot of things changed on that date, that caused the West to ask India to increase its importation of Russian oil.
Can you prove that with a source? Because based on what I know that sounds like revisionist history. the idea that India was encouraged to continue buying Russian oil even as new international sanctions were doing exactly the opposite.
 
Can you prove that with a source? Because based on what I know that sounds like revisionist history. the idea that India was encouraged to continue buying Russian oil even as new international sanctions were doing exactly the opposite.
Plenty.




The issue here is that "what @Binary_Digit knows" is not actual knowledge but just what @Binary_Digit thought would make for a reasonable narrative. Then, @Binary_Digit did no actual research to understand whether his narrative actually holds water.
 
China still buys more Russian oil than any other country.

Zero reaction from Trump.

 
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