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We abhor blaming a subset of people for things. It must be something in the water.Obviously we need gun reform and trans people are not the problem.
My position is all gun owners should be subject to a license similar to drivers license. And this requires a one-two day gun safety course and a psychological exam. Then make people renew it every x number of years. This really is common sense. Now it won't stop all shootings but it would be preventative measures against the wrong people getting guns.
Of course it is a slippery slope.
If a constitutional right can be stripped for being a felon, what other reasons can they be stripped.
It is the exact definition of 'slippery slope'.
What they are is a human having a mental impairment. And I think we can all agree those with mental impairments do not need to own guns.
Being transgendered isn’t a mental illness.It is. Any suggestion to the contrary is purely political.
No, its not a mental health didorder im the real scientific world.Yes. It is. There is no scientific world in which believing you are the opposite sex is not a mental disorder.
IMO, the invasion of personal privacy wouldn’t come close to passing constitutional scrutiny.Just require a doctor's note saying that the person is psychology stable.
It is. It is wholly unscientific to assert that someone so psychology disconnected from reality they they genuinely believe they are the opposite sex is not a mental disorder.No, its not a mental health didorder im the real scientific world.
It is.Again, "Being transgender is not a mental disorder.
I’ve already told you.But if you want to remove their right to bear arms, what will it be based on?
Permanently believing you are something you are not...is text book definition of mental disorder.How does being trans impair them in life in any way, beyond something society may impose on them?
Focusing on the mentally ill is a waste of time.
"The public tends to link serious mental illnesses, like schizophrenia or psychotic disorders, with violence and mass shootings. But serious mental illness—specifically psychosis—is not a key factor in most mass shootings or other types of mass murder. Approximately 5% of mass shootings are related to severe mental illness. And although a much larger number of mass shootings (about 25%) are associated with non-psychotic psychiatric or neurological illnesses, including depression, and an estimated 23% with substance use, in most cases these conditions are incidental.
Additionally, as we demonstrated in our paper, the contribution of mental illness to mass shootings has decreased over time. The data suggest that while it is critical that we continue to identify those individuals with mental illness and substance use disorders at high risk for violence and prevent the perpetration of violence, other risk factors, such as a history of legal problems, challenges coping with severe and acute life stressors, and the epidemic of the combination of nihilism, emptiness, anger, and a desire for notoriety among young men, seem a more useful focus for prevention and policy than an emphasis on serious mental illness, which leads to public fear and stigmatization."
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Permanently believing you are something you are not...is text book definition of mental disorder.
No, its not.It is.
Its wholly unscientific to assert they are when the actual scientific pschiatric organizations say its not.It is wholly unscientific to assert that someone so psychology disconnected from reality they they genuinely believe they are the opposite sex is not a mental disorder.
You told me its science. I proved you wrong on that......which leaves your feelings.It is.
I’ve already told you.
No, you appeal to the unscientific opinion of the WHO and APA.No, its not.
What is it you arent understanding about this......"Major medical and psychiatric organizations, including the World Health Organization (WHO) and the American Psychiatric Association (APA), do not classify a transgender identity as a mental illness."
Its wholly unscientific to assert they are when the actual scientific pschiatric organizations say its not.
You told me its science. I proved you wring on that......which leaves your feelings.
LOl.No, you appeal to the unscientific opinion of the WHO and APA.
The position of the WHO and APA has no scientific merit. The inherent insanity of the trans is a good enough reason to take their guns. Doing so will save lives.LOl.
The position of the worlds actual scientific psychiatric organizations is "unscientific opinion", but your unsupported opinion is scientific??????
Thats funny.
Do you think your opinion is good enough reason to take peoples rights away?
The "mass shootings" in the study include gang and other crime-related shootings.
When it comes to mass shootings such as in schools, bowling alleys, bars, grocery stores, workplaces, that's a different category. Do you agree?
In those shootings there is a high rate of mental dysfunction and mental illness. I'm not sure where that line is drawn medically but the point re: mental illness and violence is actually that it's related backwards:
It's not about how most mentally ill people arent violent (true)...It's that a high % of mass shootings are committed by mentally ill/mentally dysfunctional people.
There's a distinction there...agreed?
The study is on mass shootings, not gang and crime-related shootings.
Gay and trans are wildly different things.You didnt answer my question. Please do.
Gay people "believe" they are gay...millions of poorly informed people still believe that's a choice. Are gay people "really gay?" How do they prove it? Or do they just have a mental disorder? Are they mentally impaired?
The study quoted included gang and crime-related shootings with multiple victims. Does this clarify my statement? Do you agree they should be excluded from consideration when discussing mental illness?
Gay and trans are wildly different things.
Gay is simply an attraction. Trans believe they are something they are biologically not.
Here is the litmus test:
Your son wakes up, and decides he's a dog and tells you he's a dog, and then barks at you to communicate. And never stops.
Do you find him to be 'normal'?
The position of the worlds actual scientific psychiatric organizations is "unscientific opinion", but your unsupported opinion is scientific??????The position of the WHO and APA has no scientific merit. The inherent insanity of the trans is a good enough reason to take their guns. Doing so will save lives.
One incident?
Except, of course, when it comes to those people, right?Welcome to the pro-2A side.
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