Trump deports 2-year old child, a US citizen, without due process (1 Viewer)

[Rumblefish]

2-year-old U.S. citizen apparently deported 'with no meaningful process,' judge says

The child's mother was being deported and wanted to take the girl, U.S. lawyers said. When the judge asked to speak to her, they were already in the air.

www.nbcnews.com

Father was a US citizen and was willing to take and care for his (again) US citizen daughter.

2year old NOT a criminal, not a member of MS-13, not a member of TdA, no tattoos, and not here illegally.

MAGA defenders coming in 3…2…1….

 

[VySky]

2-year-old U.S. citizen apparently deported 'with no meaningful process,' judge says

The child's mother was being deported and wanted to take the girl, U.S. lawyers said. When the judge asked to speak to her, they were already in the air.

www.nbcnews.com

Father was a US citizen and was willing to take and care for his (again) US citizen daughter.

2year old NOT a criminal, not a member of MS-13, not a member of TdA, no tattoos, and not here illegally.

MAGA defenders coming in 3…2…1….

Wow.. Yet another post on the two year old the mother who was being deported did not want to leave behind.

 

[Rumblefish]

Wow.. Yet another post on the two year old the mother who was being deported did not want to leave behind.

Yet another poster who doesn’t understand due process.

Here is MAGA which distrusts most government agents, but willing to accept at face value, with not even the slightest review by an independent authority, ICE’s word.

And sure screw what dad, a US citizen wantts while we’re at it.

MAGA so predictable.

 

[VySky]

Yet another poster who doesn’t understand due process.

The mother chose to take the daughter and her non U.S. daughter with her. Its her choice, not yours

Here is MAGA which distrusts most government agents, but willing to accept at face value, with not even the slightest review by an independent authority, ICE’s word.

Yep... If it walks like a duck

And sure screw what dad, a US citizen wantts while we’re at it.

You mean like when it comes to his sons balls getting lopped off? Dad doesn't seem to matter much there.

They can work it through the courts while the family is away on holiday

 

[WorldWatcher]

2-year-old U.S. citizen apparently deported 'with no meaningful process,' judge says

The child's mother was being deported and wanted to take the girl, U.S. lawyers said. When the judge asked to speak to her, they were already in the air.

www.nbcnews.com

Father was a US citizen and was willing to take and care for his (again) US citizen daughter.

2year old NOT a criminal, not a member of MS-13, not a member of TdA, no tattoos, and not here illegally.

MAGA defenders coming in 3…2…1….

Here is the court filing pening the May Hearing.

Two tings:

#1 The two year old was not deported. The mother was deported and chose - alledgedly - to take the child with her as a custodia parent. As a citizen the child is free to return either in the near term or at maturity.

Now whether that was an informed decision and whether alternatives were explained to her PRIOR to action being taken is a whole different question. Options included:

• She take the child with her,
• The father retain custody,
• Designated loco parentis,
• Adoption,
• Surrender to the state.

The child, as an American citizen, has the right to remain, the illegal alien mother does not. If she chose to take the child with her, then the government should ensure there is proper documentation available so the child has no problem returning independently either in the near futgure or when reaching the age of maturity.

The problem isn't that the mother decided to take the child with her (if that was really her decision), the problem is the blitzkreg rush.
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#2 You say in the OP the father was a US Citizen, I'm not quite sure about the father's immigration status. Reports are that ICE tried to induce him to come to their office so he could be detained and deported. If he was a US Citizen there is no basis for deportation. In the filing it notes that the father presented a passport as part of attempting to use an option for the child to stay in the custody of another. But it does not state the country of issue.

So I'm wondering if the father

• Is present legally (hence the passport), but with either a temporary or permenant legal resident status, or
• Is present illegally and subject to deportation

I suspect he's not a citizen since he was also born in Honduras.

WW

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781.1.0.pdf

 

[Napoleon]

Yet another poster who doesn’t understand due process.

Here is MAGA which distrusts most government agents, but willing to accept at face value, with not even the slightest review by an independent authority, ICE’s word.

And sure screw what dad, a US citizen wantts while we’re at it.

MAGA so predictable.

You should wait for more facts before shooting from the hip. The mother is an illegal immigrant who was ordered deported and she had her due process. She is also the custodial parent of the child. That means the father lost legal custody in family court for reasons we don’t know and what he wants doesn’t matter because he’s an unfit parent.

There is a note in the mother’s handwriting that she wanted to take her child with her when she was deported. That is her right as the custodial parent. And let’s face facts, if ICE didn't allow that you’d be screaming about family separation. There is no such thing as due process for any toddler to stop the custodial parent from taking them somewhere. Toddlers don’t have legal rights to do anything or go anywhere other than what the custodial parent says.

 

[WorldWatcher]

That means the father lost legal custody in family court for reasons we don’t know and what he wants doesn’t matter because he’s an unfit parent.

Please support this statement with a reliable source.

#1 We know that there were likely not married as the court document refers to them as partners. However not being married does not mean that the other parent does not have rights or that they are unfit.

#2 Absent a court order removing parental rights typically parents will share joint custoday with equal rights even if living seperatley and one functions as the custodial parent. However it is common for an unmarried couple to live together, raise a familiy together, and be quite fit parents.

#3 The court document indicates the father drove them to the regularly schdueded ICE appointment where the mother was detained. If he was an unfit parent, then this action is unlikley.

It's not mentioned in the court filing (we have yet to see ICE response), if there were any such family court determination.

WW

 

[Stealers Wheel]

You should wait for more facts before shooting from the hip. The mother is an illegal immigrant who was ordered deported and she had her due process. She is also the custodial parent of the child. That means the father lost legal custody in family court for reasons we don’t know and what he wants doesn’t matter because he’s an unfit parent.

There is a note in the mother’s handwriting that she wanted to take her child with her when she was deported. That is her right as the custodial parent. And let’s face facts, if ICE didn't allow that you’d be screaming about family separation. There is no such thing as due process for any toddler to stop the custodial parent from taking them somewhere. Toddlers don’t have legal rights to do anything or go anywhere other than what the custodial parent says.

My, my, my! How things have changed since MAGA took over the GOP.

Anyone recall the saga of a child named Elián González? He was the 6 year-old back in 1999-2000 at the center of a international custody battle. He survived a failed illegal immigration from Cuba by raft that resulted in the deaths of his mother and several others. González's relatives in the US wanted him to be granted asylum while his father in Cuba wanted him returned to Cuba.

This was all happening in the waning days of the Clinton administration, and republicans were screaming bloody murder to have the boy kept in the US, even though he was an illegal and his father was demanding his return to Cuba.

Ultimately, the courts ruled the father was within his rights to demand the return of his son to Cuba. That decision likely played a factor in the Cuban-American Florida presidential vote in 2000, in which GW Bush was eventually ruled the winner over democrat Al Gore by SCOTUS.

And here today, we have MAGAts saying **** the US citizen father who wants his US citizen son returned to the US.

 

[Integrityrespec]

2-year-old U.S. citizen apparently deported 'with no meaningful process,' judge says

The child's mother was being deported and wanted to take the girl, U.S. lawyers said. When the judge asked to speak to her, they were already in the air.

www.nbcnews.com

Father was a US citizen and was willing to take and care for his (again) US citizen daughter.

2year old NOT a criminal, not a member of MS-13, not a member of TdA, no tattoos, and not here illegally.

MAGA defenders coming in 3…2…1….

So says who? More progressive judges or paid for defense counsel, what they hell you expect them to claim. No meaningful due process? What the hell does that mean? Oh, they didn't get this judge's OK.
Pack em up, send them home. If you don't come in legally, you got to go. The left doesn't seem to have an issue with not following due process when it pertains to legal entry. Hell, "surge to the border" Joe said.

 

[WorldWatcher]

And here today, we have MAGAts saying **** the US citizen father who wants his US citizen son returned to the US.

Can you support the claim the Father is a US Citizen?

(The child's birth certificate lists him [the father] as born in Honduras.)

WW

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Can you support the claim the Father is a US Citizen?

(The child's birth certificate lists him [the father] as born in Honduras.)

WW

While the father may not be a US citizen, the fact that ICE has not deported him is evidence that he is here legally and arguably has protections of US law, including custody laws. Nevertheless, Trump is defying the courts, literally declaring judges who oppose his agenda as enemies of the state.

The point is these moves by the Trump administration are designed to put the whole world on notice: You are not safe here. Unless you support the MAGA agenda, you are not welcome here. Stay away. Go away.

 

[WorldWatcher]

While the father may not be a US citizen, the fact that ICE has not deported him is evidence that he is here legally and arguably has protections of US law, including custody laws. Nevertheless, Trump is defying the courts, literally declaring judges who oppose his agenda as enemies of the state.

The point is these moves by the Trump administration are designed to put the whole world on notice: You are not safe here. Unless you support the MAGA agenda, you are not welcome here. Stay away. Go away.

Read the last sentence.

ICE wanted the father to turn himself in for detention and deportation.

So you earlier claimed the father was a US Citizen, however ICE wanted him to turn himself in for deportation.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if he were a US Citizen he couldn't be deported.

WW




PDF Pages 6 & 7.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781.1.0.pdf

 

[verrip1]

Yet another poster who doesn’t understand due process.

Here is MAGA which distrusts most government agents, but willing to accept at face value, with not even the slightest review by an independent authority, ICE’s word.

And sure screw what dad, a US citizen wantts while we’re at it.

MAGA so predictable.

Lib virtue signalling. So predictable.