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Trump asked McGahn to lie

SonOfDaedalus

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A new detail this: How Trump not only ordered then White House counsel Don McGahn to fire Mueller in June 2017, he then went on to order McGahn publicly to deny that he had told him to do so. (McGahn refused to do either.)
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Trump said he was '****ed' and his presidency over upon Mueller's appointment – live | US news | The Guardian


Yes, our president is corrupt.

1. When Trump learns he will be investigated by Mueller he says he's ****ed and his presidency is over. (corrupt motive)

2. Trump ORDERED McGahan to fire Mueller. McGahan refused to do this.

3. Trump asked McGahan to lie and say he never asked him to fire Mueller.


I say impeach. This is a corrupt president.
 
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I suppose you can argue that someone who's above the law can't be corrupt.

What a blot on America...
 
Did you actually READ why he said that or are you just simple mindedly regurgitating what someone allegedly reported was intent?

Because...you have to READ it or you just make yourself look silly.

You wont.
 
VanceMack said:
Did you actually READ why he said that or are you just simple mindedly regurgitating what someone allegedly reported was intent?

Because...you have to READ it or you just make yourself look silly.

You wont.
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Are you saying he did not ask McGahan to lie?
 
Hopefully the bolded prediction will come to reality, next November.
 

What if McGhan is the liar?
 

Yes, the left is melting down.

The POTUS is not required to report the PRIVATE DEBATES he has with his staff to the FAKE NEWS.

Imagine if he had told his entire administration to LIE ABOUT FOUR AMERICANS ,INCLUDING A US AMBASSADOR..BEING BUTCHERD IN A TERRORIST ATTACK, HUH? IMAGINE THAT!!!
(IT WAS THE VIDEO!! )

PLEEEEEASE DEMAND that the House Politburo IMPEACH HIM..PLEEEEEEEASE.....


 
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jdog21 said:
What if McGhan is the liar?
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That's why we investigated. You can't return to pre investigation times and pretend we don't know anything.
 
Grokmaster said:
Yes, the left is melting down.

The POTUS is not required to report the PRIVATE DEBATES he has with his staff to the FAKE NEWS.

PLEEEEEASE DEMAND that the House Politburo IMPEACH HIM..PLEEEEEEEASE.....
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Trump asked McGahan to lie. He said he was ****ed when Mueller was appointed. He ordered McGhan to fire Mueller. He asked McGhan to lie about the order to fire Mueller.

Trump lying and covering up everywhere.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Trump asked McGahan to lie. He said he was ****ed when Mueller was appointed. He ordered McGhan to fire Mueller. He asked McGhan to lie about the order to fire Mueller.

Trump lying and covering up everywhere.
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Let's SEE IT QUOTED FROM THE REPORT EXACTLY.


WHERE'S THE INDICTMENT?


Lie to WHOM?
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
To You and Me. To the American people. To his supporters. To everyone.
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Did his LAWYER LIE? LET'S SEE THE QUOTE you keep FAILING TO PRODUCE.


UNEDITED VIDEO..let's see it.
 
Grokmaster said:
Did his LAWYER LIE? LET'S SEE THE QUOTE you keep FAILING TO PRODUCE.


UNEDITED VIDEO..let's see it.
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No, but Trump asked him to lie. Just like he asked him to fire Mueller.

If I ask you to steal for me but you refuse, does that change the fact that I'm corrupt? No.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Is that what you honestly believe? You believe that the Chief Counsel lied?
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LET'S SEE THE QUOTE FROM THE REPORT...and the VIDEO OF TRUMP LYING ABOUT IT.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
No, but Trump asked him to lie. Just like he asked him to fire Mueller.

If I ask you to steal for me but you refuse, does that change the fact that I'm corrupt? No.
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TO WHOM? LET's SEE THE QUOTE FROM THE REPORT...that YOU CONTINUE TO FAIL TO PRODUCE.
 
I figured Trump's extreme ignorance of the law, common sense, decency, etc. would be what got him off the hook for obstruction, and sure enough.

Trump's incompetence and gall (and the special counsel's fear of provoking a constitutional crisis) keep him safely ensconced in his position of abuse of power.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
No, but Trump asked him to lie. Just like he asked him to fire Mueller.

If I ask you to steal for me but you refuse, does that change the fact that I'm corrupt? No.
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BULL****. They discussed A LOT OF THINGS.


LET'S SEE THE QUOTE FROM THE REPORT, THAT YOU STILL CANNOT PRODUCE...….
 

 
ecofarm said:
That's why we investigated. You can't return to pre investigation times and pretend we don't know anything.
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All that is in the report is McGhans version of the story. You don't see Trumps or the white houses side. The investigators didn't present evidence to collaborate McGhans story. Its just a piece of heresay knowledge to add to other events. It doesn't make a determination that McGhans story is true or not. So its entirely possible that McGhans would tell lies.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Is that what you honestly believe? You believe that the Chief Counsel lied?
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McGhans story and version of events seem weird and incoherent sometimes. Their is nothing suggesting he is telling the truth.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
No, but Trump asked him to lie. Just like he asked him to fire Mueller.

If I ask you to steal for me but you refuse, does that change the fact that I'm corrupt? No.
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Firing Mueller would not have been illegal so, bad analogy.
 

The investigation report is not a collection of hearsay, it's a collection of facts established in the investigation. The details of that are in the investigation.

You are not free to pretend the entire investigation is fake.
 

This is a fantastically stupid line of “reasoning.”
 
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