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This message was authorized by the party of hate.1. A veto proof Congress with a Democratic Party majority.
2. A third impeachment; this time with a conviction.
Which is the point. Republicans want to destroy higher education. They see colleges as liberal breeding grounds. Or in their nazi language, cultural marxist breeding grounds.all this carry on could harm Harvard's global standing among the world as the top university on the planet
Lol right.Total bullshit. I say this as a moderate Democrat. Total fascists.
Now thats the real bullshit right there.The difference is very simple. We think that the Constitution is intended for everyone, not just for white, male, Christians. That's what's going on here. Trump supporters want the government to work only for white, male, Christians, everyone else has to either toe the line or gtfo.
You, like every other leftist here, have no idea what fascism is.What you guys are doing is an example of fascism, pure and simple.
That exists only in the neurotic minds of the unhinged left.I'm tired of this bullshit. I don't want to live in a goofy Trump-inspired fascist dictatorship.
Perhaps that’s because you don’t know the whole story. It’s not a matter of Harvard complying with simple reporting requirements. Harvard has no problem with doing that. Those requirements are spelled out in the CFR. The administration is ignoring that and wants something else from Harvard that is not in the reporting requirements. As expected the administration is hiding the truth.The threat to Harvard’s international enrollment stems from an April 16 request from Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who demanded that it provide information about foreign students that might implicate them in violence or protests that could lead to their deportation.In a letter to Harvard on Thursday, Noem said the school’s sanction is “the unfortunate result of Harvard’s failure to comply with simple reporting requirements.” It bars Harvard from hosting international students for the upcoming 2025-26 school year.Noem said Harvard can regain its ability to host foreign students if it produces a trove of records on foreign students within 72 hours. Her updated request demands all records, including audio or video footage, of foreign students participating in protests or dangerous activity on campus.
Seems reasonable to me.
Absolutely.Which is the point. Republicans want to destroy higher education. They see colleges as liberal breeding grounds. Or in their nazi language, cultural marxist breeding grounds.
This is all intentional.
They want a far right echo chamber and to spread their diseased ideology and it's easier to do it with a stupid unedcuated populace. They want to hold onto power for generations.
They already got a population stupid enough to vote Trump back in after his first disaster of a term and give him a trifecta of a republican controlled congress and senate and judicary.
Objectively true.False.
Strawman. The courts decide if a law or action is constitutional.The courts do not decide who is admitted into the USA.
And the law is crystal clear on this. The documentation DHS asked for is outside the bounds of the law, and required a subpoena or warrant to obtain. Harvard rightfully told them to **** off. Then trumps administration illegally tried to revoke the visas of the students and harvards certification. And he lost in court. Again, because he keeps wiping his ass with the constitution.That is a power of Congress. You know 'separation of powers.'
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It is interesting, and admittedly a seductive idea. I was first drawn to the idea of withdrawing from modern society (on an admittedly limited capacity - a man's gotta eat!) when I read Cahill's How the Irish Saved Civilization. A group of monks retreating from the world at the onset of the Dark Ages, seeking to preserve knowledge as the barbarians held sway - what's not to love about the romantic image that conjures? And the world only seems to have gotten crueler, more trivial, and more willfully idiotic since the book was published in the mid 90's, with Trumpism a natural result.
Could Harvard do better? Yes, so could any university, business or for that matter, the federal government.They need to put it into practice. Trying to paper over the problem achieves nothing.
We're talking about the problem at this university. You can't create a safe space for some students by allowing them to run over others.
Is this true?"The Department of Homeland Security announced the action Thursday, saying Harvard has created an unsafe campus environment by allowing “anti-American, pro-terrorist agitators” to assault Jewish students on campus. It also accused Harvard of coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party, saying it hosted and trained members of a Chinese paramilitary group as recently as 2024."
Let Harvard worry about how it confers degrees. It is already a safe learning environment for all students (except those who buck the trump administration).Again, then it wouldn't be a Harvard degree, and you would end up with requests for other 'arrangements'
I still think it would be easier, and better, to create a safe learning environment for all students, than to try to find creative ways around government sanctions.
What are you basing this on?Any attorney would advise their client to tender the requested documents, to avoid the expensive litigation that will take place.
You made this up, then you proceeded to argue against it. There's a name for that.This statement says a lot about the left.
Creating a safe learning environment may 'be for the rubes' - but that's what we're talking about. You can't bend over backwards for some groups, and allow them to run over others, in the name of 'free speech'. The mission of universities is to teach, not to create some kind of dystopian gauntlet that students have to run in order to get to class.
Subject to Congress not making laws that are unconstitutional. That constitutionality would be determined by the courts.Issues such as immigration, citizenship, admissions, deportations are political questions. They are not Judicial ones.
Congress has plenary power over this.
Federal courts from district on up determine if the Executive branch is violating the Constitution or the laws passed by Congress. That’s where Trump is getting into trouble.Not the courts.
Congress has very narrowly limited the courts scope here (immigration courts are part of the Executive Branch, Judicial courts of appeals can only rule upon the facts, and district courts have basically no say). That is what "separation of powers' is all about.
Only if the courts agree with your opinion. They may or may not agree.That's also why there is talk about the Administrative Procedure Act. Because there is really no other opening.
Congress has ceded some of their authority to the president with respect to national security issues.
So maybe Harvard can't be forced to give up the information requested.
But it doesn't matter. Because the Executive can do what he is threatening to do, because the branch of government that has the power on the subject has ceded (some of it) it to them.
The end of the story will be determined by the courts.That's the end of the story.
Brings to mind a quote attributed to LBJ.100%.
I think the bottom line is they think that as long as people who aren't white suffer more than they suffer, they're pretty much okay with it. They see all of this as a zero-sum game.
Absolutely. It's been a subject of discussion here on several occasions. They allowed these weird encampments on the campus where people 'protested' and harassed Jewish students.Is this true?
A poster suggested this odd scheme of having students transfer to another university to maintain their visas, audit classes at Harvard, and transfer right before graduating.Let Harvard worry about how it confers degrees. It is already a safe learning environment for all students (except those who buck the trump administration).
What are you trying to say?You made this up, then you proceeded to argue against it. There's a name for that.
Well it certainly looks like the administration had a plan to throw thousands of foreign students out of our country, but that’s been stopped now unless the administration decides to appeal:That would be up to Harvard.
The Trump Admin isn't trying to throw thousands of foreign students our of the country. It's just a few.
Or Jews. Harvard isn’t very safe for Jews.Let Harvard worry about how it confers degrees. It is already a safe learning environment for all students (except those who buck the trump administration).
Yes, there were protests that could have been better managed. Harvard learned a lesson there. That ended more than a year ago. It’s nothing more than a red herring the administration is using to justify what it’s doing now.Absolutely. It's been a subject of discussion here on several occasions. They allowed these weird encampments on the campus where people 'protested' and harassed Jewish students.
I looked and I could only find one actual incident of assault on a Jewish student at Harvard. Just one.Or Jews. Harvard isn’t very safe for Jews.
Or Muslims. Neither is anywhere else until Israel and the Palestinians stop hating each other. The problem is a reflection of what is happening in the Middle East.Or Jews. Harvard isn’t very safe for Jews.
I looked and I could only find one actual incident of assault on a Jewish student at Harvard. Just one.
And it was fairly mild. No injuries. And the two students responsible have already been charged and sentenced.
I've seen more frequent, and more violent assaults at college football games
Or Jews. Harvard isn’t very safe for Jews.
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