Trump’s moves to tighten power and punish enemies draw comparisons to places where democracy faded

[Ikari]

Trump’s moves to tighten power and punish enemies draw comparisons to places where democracy faded

President Donald Trump’s consolidation of power and targeting of his political opponents bring back unnerving memories for those who have watched elected leaders undermine democracies elsewhere in the world.

apnews.com

In 2007, eight years after becoming Venezuela’s president, Hugo Chávez revoked the license of the country’s oldest private television station. Eight months into his second term, President Donald Trump suggested revoking the licenses of U.S. television stations he believes are overly critical of him.

Since he returned to office in January, Trump’s remaking of the federal government into an instrument of his personal will has drawn comparisons to elected strongmen in other countries who used the levers of government to consolidate power, punish their enemies and stifle dissent.

But those familiar with other countries where that has happened, including Hungary and Turkey, say there is one striking difference: Trump appears to be moving more rapidly, and more overtly, than others did.

Trump is moving at horrifying speeds to seize power and control. There's no doubt he wants the power and control Un and Xi wield over their countries, and MAGA commies are only too happy to give it to them.

 

[bongsaway]

Trump’s moves to tighten power and punish enemies draw comparisons to places where democracy faded

President Donald Trump’s consolidation of power and targeting of his political opponents bring back unnerving memories for those who have watched elected leaders undermine democracies elsewhere in the world.

apnews.com

Trump is moving at horrifying speeds to seize power and control. There's no doubt he wants the power and control Un and Xi wield over their countries, and MAGA commies are only too happy to give it to them.

They are too ignorant of history or either think nothing bad will happen to them because they support trump. I hope they are enjoying the higher costs of everything since trump took office. I think America is really getting fed up with the antics of trump and his goons.

 

[RedFishBlueFish]

The MAGAs should take a look at the current state of the economies in Turkey and Hungary. But since they lack critical thinking skills, they probably wouldn't understand. Perhaps if we go into recession their lizard brains might recognize that.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Trump’s moves to tighten power and punish enemies draw comparisons to places where democracy faded

President Donald Trump’s consolidation of power and targeting of his political opponents bring back unnerving memories for those who have watched elected leaders undermine democracies elsewhere in the world.

apnews.com

Trump is moving at horrifying speeds to seize power and control. There's no doubt he wants the power and control Un and Xi wield over their countries, and MAGA commies are only too happy to give it to them.

The right loves to snuggle in the warm fuzzy blanket of American exceptionalism, but it's always grounded in past glories. Trumpism loves to goose MAGAs with exceptionalism rhetoric, with military parades and flyovers and Taco hugging flags.

And all the while Trumpism is subverting those past glories to make present day America banal, corrupt, and divided.

 

[Rexedgar]

IMO, we are fast approaching the point where any return to “normal” will be very long and difficult, if possible at all…….

 

[Integrityrespec]

Trump’s moves to tighten power and punish enemies draw comparisons to places where democracy faded

President Donald Trump’s consolidation of power and targeting of his political opponents bring back unnerving memories for those who have watched elected leaders undermine democracies elsewhere in the world.

apnews.com

Trump is moving at horrifying speeds to seize power and control. There's no doubt he wants the power and control Un and Xi wield over their countries, and MAGA commies are only too happy to give it to them.

Let us know when he violates the law, the system stops him, and the courts back it up. So far I'm not sure he's broken a law. The courts rule, he appeals, and they either overtrun it or they don't.

 

[RedFishBlueFish]

Let us know when he violates the law, the system stops him, and the courts back it up. So far I'm not sure he's broken a law. The courts rule, he appeals, and they either overtrun it or they don't.

He has already violated the law. He's a convicted felon.

 

[Ikari]

Let us know when he violates the law, the system stops him, and the courts back it up. So far I'm not sure he's broken a law. The courts rule, he appeals, and they either overtrun it or they don't.

He already has 34 felony convictions.

 

[RedFishBlueFish]

Let us know when he violates the law, the system stops him, and the courts back it up. So far I'm not sure he's broken a law. The courts rule, he appeals, and they either overtrun it or they don't.

Violating the Constitution is not violating the law (although some laws are constitution based). IMO a president violating the constitution is worse than violating the law. Here are a few examples of Trump's violations of the Constitution.

Issuing retaliatory executive orders
Improper use of federal funds
Obstruction of Congress
Incitement to insurrection
Emoluments Clause
Birthright Citizenship
First Amendment
War Powers Clause
Ignoring congressional power over spending
Invoking the Alien Enemies Act unlawfully

 

[Scatty Kitty]

Trump’s moves to tighten power and punish enemies draw comparisons to places where democracy faded

President Donald Trump’s consolidation of power and targeting of his political opponents bring back unnerving memories for those who have watched elected leaders undermine democracies elsewhere in the world.

apnews.com

Trump is moving at horrifying speeds to seize power and control. There's no doubt he wants the power and control Un and Xi wield over their countries, and MAGA commies are only too happy to give it to them.

You do realize that just because a person is authoritarian doesn't make them a commie right? What's next, you're going to say Kamela Harris is an anarchist?

As for Trump being an authoritarian this shouldn't surprise anyone. This is literally Orban's playbook who stole from Putin's playbook. This is what happens when conservatives learn from each other but refuse democracy.

 

[Ikari]

You do realize that just because a person is authoritarian doesn't make them a commie right? What's next, you're going to say Kamela Harris is an anarchist?

As for Trump being an authoritarian this shouldn't surprise anyone. This is literally Orban's playbook who stole from Putin's playbook. This is what happens when conservatives learn from each other but refuse democracy.

Functionally, it's all close to the same thing in the end. Things like fascism and communism are just slightly different flavors of authoritarianism. Plus Trump does like to emulate China a lot. He yearns for the power of Un and Xi. He even is enacting the mercantile economic policies China likes to use. Also, he loves calling the press the enemy of the people, he wants to control what is printed, push military interventionism against the US citizenry, punish disloyalty to himself and Party.

There are a lot of parallels between China and what Trump is pushing for.

 

[Scatty Kitty]

Functionally, it's all close to the same thing in the end. Things like fascism and communism are just slightly different flavors of authoritarianism. Plus Trump does like to emulate China a lot. He yearns for the power of Un and Xi. He even is enacting the mercantile economic policies China likes to use. Also, he loves calling the press the enemy of the people, he wants to control what is printed, push military interventionism against the US citizenry, punish disloyalty to himself and Party.

There are a lot of parallels between China and what Trump is pushing for.

Distinctions matter! There are important distinctions between things. Why are the communists authoritarian? Because the revolution is under threat and just as Marat put it, sometimes radical changes are needed in the course for freedom. Fascism kills people because they're racially impure or enemies of the state. There are differences. Mao promised the peasants of China free food and shelter. Trump promises the poor of the US what? What is he promisingly them?

 

[Ikari]

Distinctions matter! There are important distinctions between things. Why are the communists authoritarian? Because the revolution is under threat and just as Marat put it, sometimes radical changes are needed in the course for freedom. Fascism kills people because they're racially impure or enemies of the state. There are differences. Mao promised the peasants of China free food and shelter. Trump promises the poor of the US what? What is he promisingly them?

Communists are authoritarian because that's the basic outcome we've seen of any communist movement. Marxism as a philosophy is flawed and failed, it never actually works out. You never get to the point where the People control the means of production. Instead all communist movements end in the same thing, a stinking pile of totalitarian authoritative bullshit. Built around absolute power in Dear Leader, forced loyalty to the Party, a crack down on rights, and regressive mercantile economic policies.

 

[Mr Person]

This is why it was important to vote for Harris even if one felt they had more important "principles."

 

[Fearandloathing]

Violating the Constitution is not violating the law (although some laws are constitution based). IMO a president violating the constitution is worse than violating the law. Here are a few examples of Trump's violations of the Constitution.

Issuing retaliatory executive orders
Improper use of federal funds
Obstruction of Congress
Incitement to insurrection
Emoluments Clause
Birthright Citizenship
First Amendment
War Powers Clause
Ignoring congressional power over spending
Invoking the Alien Enemies Act unlawfully

...and that's keeping him up at night!

Look, AL Capone slept well as does Trump

 

[Scatty Kitty]

Communists are authoritarian because that's the basic outcome we've seen of any communist movement. Marxism as a philosophy is flawed and failed, it never actually works out. You never get to the point where the People control the means of production. Instead all communist movements end in the same thing, a stinking pile of totalitarian authoritative bullshit. Built around absolute power in Dear Leader, forced loyalty to the Party, a crack down on rights, and regressive mercantile economic policies.

Hahahahaha oh my gosh you bought into the capitalist propaganda hook line and sinker. Now tell me this. Do you know why they support "mercantile" economic policies? Do you know the number of liberal democracies that failed to be liberal democracies? But we would never say that liberalism or conservatism has failed, when we have so many ways of showing they've failed.

You hate what you don't understand. Ten bucks says you don't even know what dialectal materialism is.

 

[Luce]

This is what people wanted.

 

[Manc Skipper]

This is what people wanted.

Putin and the Billionaire class.

 

[Luce]

Putin and the Billionaire class.

And 77 million populist idiots.

 

[Manc Skipper]

And 77 million populist idiots.

Elmo helped deliver all the swing states!