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Trump’s End-Times Fascism (1 Viewer)

Dans La Lune

Dans La Lune

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One of my main ideological influences, Naomi Klein (of 'Shock Doctrine' fame), describing the freakish accelerationist beliefs of the right-wing weirdos steering the policy ship. It's not that they don't want the world to crash because of their policies. That's the end goal. I think the notion that this is a series of blunders is missing the bigger picture. How can you reason with someone who wants the world to burn? How can you meet them in the middle? They want to be feudal lords or Libertarian Cities, and that can only be done by destroying the current system.
 
Dans La Lune said:


One of my main ideological influences, Naomi Klein (of 'Shock Doctrine' fame), describing the freakish accelerationist beliefs of the right-wing weirdos steering the policy ship. It's not that they don't want the world to crash because of their policies. That's the end goal. I think the notion that this is a series of blunders is missing the bigger picture. How can you reason with someone who wants the world to burn? How can you meet them in the middle? They want to be feudal lords or Libertarian Cities, and that can only be done by destroying the current system.
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Why does the "right wing" want the "world to crash?" What is their motivation?
 
NatMorton said:
Why does the "right wing" want the "world to crash?" What is their motivation?
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Dude. Once everything is in chaos then martial law kicks in and dictators take over.

How did you not know that? No history classes in your public school?
 
NatMorton said:
Why does the "right wing" want the "world to crash?" What is their motivation?
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Pay no attention. It is a ridiculous post based on the biased crazy utterances of an insane women.
 
noonereal said:
Pay no attention. It is a ridiculous post based on the biased crazy utterances of an insane women.
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Oh please, do go on and explain to the group how she is insane.
 
NatMorton said:
Why does the "right wing" want the "world to crash?" What is their motivation?
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Conservatives don't want the world to crash. It's just more leftist gibberish. They can't resist, it's their own form of Tourette Syndrome.
 
"For years, it has been pushing the extreme notion that wealthy, tax-averse people should up and start their own high-tech fiefdoms, whether new countries on artificial islands in international waters (“seasteading”) or pro-business “freedom cities” such as Próspera, a glorified gated community combined with a wild west med spa on a Honduran island.

...The startup country contingent is clearly foreseeing a future marked by shocks, scarcity and collapse. Their high-tech private domains are essentially fortressed escape pods, designed for the select few to take advantage of every possible luxury and opportunity for human optimization, giving them and their children an edge in an increasingly barbarous future. To put it bluntly, the most powerful people in the world are preparing for the end of the world, an end they themselves are frenetically accelerating.

That is not so far away from the more mass-market vision of fortressed nations that has gripped the hard right globally, from Italy to Israel, Australia to the United States: in a time of ceaseless peril, openly supremacist movements in these countries are positioning their relatively wealthy states as armed bunkers. These bunkers are brutal in their determination to expel and imprison unwanted humans (even if that requires indefinite confinement in extra-national penal colonies from Manus Island to Guantánamo Bay) and equally ruthless in their willingness to violently claim the land and resources (water, energy, critical minerals) they deem necessary to weather the coming shocks.

...Interestingly...it is noteworthy that both of these visions – the priority-pass corporate state and the mass-market bunker nation – share a great deal in common with the Christian fundamentalist interpretation of the biblical Rapture, when the faithful will supposedly be lifted up to a golden city in heaven, while the damned are left to endure an apocalyptic final battle down here on earth.

If we are to meet our critical moment in history, we need to reckon with the reality that we are not up against adversaries we have seen before. We are up against end times fascism.

...Alive to our era of genuine existential danger – from climate breakdown to nuclear war to sky-rocketing inequality and unregulated AI – but financially and ideologically committed to deepening those threats, contemporary far-right movements lack any credible vision for a hopeful future. The average voter is offered only remixes of a bygone past, alongside the sadistic pleasures of dominance over an ever-expanding assemblage of dehumanized others."

www.theguardian.com

The rise of end times fascism | Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor

The governing ideology of the far right has become a monstrous, supremacist survivalism. Our task is to build a movement strong enough to stop them
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Some folks have suggested this is where Trump's interest in obtaining Iceland and Greenland comes from. A place where acceptable people can escape the ravages of global warming and the migration of brown people northward to escape it.
 
NatMorton said:
Why does the "right wing" want the "world to crash?" What is their motivation?
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The same reason people want to short the market. Those with the resources are in a position to take advantage. Or at least that's the theory. It doesn't make any sense, but these people are high their own farts. Elon Musk thinks his genes are special hence he offers to impregnate women as a gift.
 
NatMorton said:
Why does the "right wing" want the "world to crash?" What is their motivation?
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From #10.

"...Alive to our era of genuine existential danger – from climate breakdown to nuclear war to sky-rocketing inequality and unregulated AI – but financially and ideologically committed to deepening those threats, contemporary far-right movements lack any credible vision for a hopeful future. The average voter is offered only remixes of a bygone past, alongside the sadistic pleasures of dominance over an ever-expanding assemblage of dehumanized others."
 
Dans La Lune said:


One of my main ideological influences, Naomi Klein (of 'Shock Doctrine' fame), describing the freakish accelerationist beliefs of the right-wing weirdos steering the policy ship. It's not that they don't want the world to crash because of their policies. That's the end goal. I think the notion that this is a series of blunders is missing the bigger picture. How can you reason with someone who wants the world to burn? How can you meet them in the middle? They want to be feudal lords or Libertarian Cities, and that can only be done by destroying the current system.
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No one wants the world to crash. Thats just hysterical leftist bullshit.
 
j brown's body said:
From #10.

"...Alive to our era of genuine existential danger – from climate breakdown to nuclear war to sky-rocketing inequality and unregulated AI – but financially and ideologically committed to deepening those threats, contemporary far-right movements lack any credible vision for a hopeful future. The average voter is offered only remixes of a bygone past, alongside the sadistic pleasures of dominance over an ever-expanding assemblage of dehumanized others."
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Thats meaningless nonsense.
 
"End times" is the goal... okay, time to make some 🍿 for this thread.
 
Fletch said:
No one wants the world to crash. Thats just hysterical leftist bullshit.
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No one is saying the right-wing wants the world to crash. The right-wing just cant be bothered to do anything about it. This thread is about how they are responding to it.
 
Dans La Lune said:


One of my main ideological influences, Naomi Klein (of 'Shock Doctrine' fame), describing the freakish accelerationist beliefs of the right-wing weirdos steering the policy ship. It's not that they don't want the world to crash because of their policies. That's the end goal. I think the notion that this is a series of blunders is missing the bigger picture. How can you reason with someone who wants the world to burn? How can you meet them in the middle? They want to be feudal lords or Libertarian Cities, and that can only be done by destroying the current system.
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Did you read Doppelganger? It blew me away.
 
I don’t think “end times” is the right characterization in any context outside of those who are trying to force conditions for Jesus to return.

There are those who fundamentally want to remake society in their image though and are willing to bring out about the current era of Trump based fascism to get there.
 
j brown's body said:
No one is saying the right-wing wants the world to crash. The right-wing just cant be bothered to do anything about it. This thread is about how they are responding to it.
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The world is not going to crash. Thats just you libs doing what you always do
 
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