Trump’s DOJ considering banning trans people from buying guns

[NatMorton]

Trump’s DOJ considering banning trans people from buying guns
By Diana Nerozzi and Ronny Reyes
Published Sep. 4, 2025
Updated Sep. 4, 2025, 5:17 p.m. ET


The Justice Department is discussing proposals to potentially block transgender Americans from buying firearms, sources told The Post.

In the wake of the deadly Minneapolis Catholic church shooting conducted by Robin Westman, who identified as a trans woman, DOJ officials are mulling options the Trump administration can take to restrict the 2nd Amendment rights of some Americans, sources familiar with the talks said.

Some DOJ members believe the move can be approved as a follow up on Trump’s executive order barring military service by transgender people.

Source: https://nypost.com/2025/09/04/us-news/trumps-doj-considering-banning-trans-people-from-buying-guns/

Okay, anyone who's read my posts on gender dysphoria knows I believe it to be akin to delusion disorder and, therefore, a mental health condition. And anyone who's read my posts on gun violence knows I favor stronger gun control regulation, even if that requires amending or repealing the Second Amendment.

That said, this proposal to target transgenders alone for gun restriction is entirely wrong and is a form of scapegoating. We should not be singling out specific forms of mental health conditions, and especially ones that are so ill understood as is gender dysphoria. It would be no different than denying guns to blacks simply because the rate of violent crime is higher among blacks than it is among other racial demographics.

If we're going to approach this with some form of mental health screening as a prerequisite to purchasing a gun, it should be broad-based, and focus on identifying deep-seated, anti-social, violent behavior. And such behavior is by no means limited to transgenders.

 

[Greenbeard]

All it took to get MAGA to see gun restrictions as a solution to mass shootings was to feed their anti-trans obsession in the process.

 

[The Brad Dad]

If we're going to approach this with some form of mental health screening as a prerequisite to purchasing a gun, it should be broad-based, and focus on identifying deep-seated, anti-social, violent behavior. And such behavior is by no means limited to transgenders.

It doesn't describe trans folks even a little. Does pretty much 1:1 conservative American males though.

 

[The Brad Dad]

All it took to get MAGA to see gun restrictions as a solution to mass shootings was to feed their anti-trans obsession in the process.

AS usual their solution doesn't even do anything about the problem. Our schools and streets arent' being shot up by transgender folks.

 

[Slartibartfast]

This is probably the test run for a future authoritarian gun grab and generally disarming the population.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Source: https://nypost.com/2025/09/04/us-news/trumps-doj-considering-banning-trans-people-from-buying-guns/

Okay, anyone who's read my posts on gender dysphoria knows I believe it to be akin to delusion disorder and, therefore, a mental health condition. And anyone who's read my posts on gun violence knows I favor stronger gun control regulation, even if that requires amending or repealing the Second Amendment.

That said, this proposal to target transgenders alone for gun restriction is entirely wrong and is a form of scapegoating. We should not be singling out specific forms of mental health conditions, and especially ones that are so ill understood as is gender dysphoria. It would be no different than denying guns to blacks simply because the rate of violent crime is higher among blacks than it is among other racial demographics.

If we're going to approach this with some form of mental health screening as a prerequisite to purchasing a gun, it should be broad-based, and focus on identifying deep-seated, anti-social, violent behavior. And such behavior is by no means limited to transgenders.

I disagree with you somewhat, but your point is well taken. Gender dysphoria is a mental health condition and trying to make men into women or women into men will not fix that. 2nd amendment is a right and needs to be protected, but some reasonable restrictions based on facts and evidence as an case by case action seems fair. Convicted felons don't need guns, the mentally ill don't need guns, ooppps, that eliminates Transgender right there. Why we worry so much about people who are shooting up schools, supermarkets, etc but don't give a rat's ass about all the gang bangers and criminals using handguns to committ crimes all over our cities is hypocritical. The majority of gun deaths isn't from mass shooters, and the majority of legal gun owners in America have never committed a crime much less shot someone. We have laws to take care of the problems but democrats don't want to prosecute you garden variety shooter in NYC, LA, Chicago, Boston, and on down the line.

 

[redbeer]

Source: https://nypost.com/2025/09/04/us-news/trumps-doj-considering-banning-trans-people-from-buying-guns/

Okay, anyone who's read my posts on gender dysphoria knows I believe it to be akin to delusion disorder and, therefore, a mental health condition. And anyone who's read my posts on gun violence knows I favor stronger gun control regulation, even if that requires amending or repealing the Second Amendment.

That said, this proposal to target transgenders alone for gun restriction is entirely wrong and is a form of scapegoating. We should not be singling out specific forms of mental health conditions, and especially ones that are so ill understood as is gender dysphoria. It would be no different than denying guns to blacks simply because the rate of violent crime is higher among blacks than it is among other racial demographics.

If we're going to approach this with some form of mental health screening as a prerequisite to purchasing a gun, it should be broad-based, and focus on identifying deep-seated, anti-social, violent behavior. And such behavior is by no means limited to transgenders.

Yes, banning guns in any way, shape, or form is not a solution. I don't know any trans personally, yet I'm sure many of them are also law abiding citizens, so it would be wrong to remove their right to bear arms, imo. The solution should be more on going after the mental problems associated with mass shootings, instead of the weapons used. They are inanimate objects and it takes a crazy person to purposefully target children. It's not the guns, it's the mentally off balanced minds which use them.

How and why the argument over guns is still ongoing is beyond me, proved to be such a waste of time and "only" used for political talking points and one upmanship. In the meantime, more and more mass killings occur, and wouldn't you know it, the lame, same ole bs about removing or keeping guns, while everyone, literally everyone knows these people are not right in the head. It's crazy in itself.......wtf is wrong with everyone!

 

[Mithrae]

This is probably the test run for a future authoritarian gun grab and generally disarming the population.

I doubt it. One thing the RWNJs never seemed to grasp is that citizen's guns are simply not a credible threat to an authoritarian US government, or at least not one more concerned with power than prosperity. Decentralized citizen's militia cells might cause some economic disruption and terrorism; but would-be insurgents would be arrested in droves trying to organize or recruit online or by other unsophisticated means easily monitored by intelligence agencies, the ranks of many would be infiltrated by double agents, any given cell or hideout would be easily obliterated by the military when located, and no important objectives could be meaningfully captured or held, at most a few might be destroyed or damaged.

If anything, Trump wants to provoke violent reactions from opponents thinking that their guns make them tough, in order to 'justify' heavier-handed and more authoritarian measures. Disarming the population would be entirely counter-productive. I'd guess this is about flexing on bigotry and instilling fear of future disarmament, rather than actually being a first step towards such.

 

[NatMorton]

I disagree with you somewhat, but your point is well taken. Gender dysphoria is a mental health condition and trying to make men into women or women into men will not fix that. 2nd amendment is a right and needs to be protected, but some reasonable restrictions based on facts and evidence as an case by case action seems fair. Convicted felons don't need guns, the mentally ill don't need guns, ooppps, that eliminates Transgender right there. Why we worry so much about people who are shooting up schools, supermarkets, etc but don't give a rat's ass about all the gang bangers and criminals using handguns to committ crimes all over our cities is hypocritical. The majority of gun deaths isn't from mass shooters, and the majority of legal gun owners in America have never committed a crime much less shot someone. We have laws to take care of the problems but democrats don't want to prosecute you garden variety shooter in NYC, LA, Chicago, Boston, and on down the line.

All forms of mental illness? And does degree matter?

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Yes, banning guns in any way, shape, or form is not a solution. I don't know any trans personally, yet I'm sure many of them are also law abiding citizens, so it would be wrong to remove their right to bear arms, imo. The solution should be more on going after the mental problems associated with mass shootings, instead of the weapons used. They are inanimate objects and it takes a crazy person to purposefully target children. It's not the guns, it's the mentally off balanced minds which use them.

How and why the argument over guns is still ongoing is beyond me, proved to be such a waste of time and "only" used for political talking points and one upmanship. In the meantime, more and more mass killings occur, and wouldn't you know it, the lame, same ole bs about removing or keeping guns, while everyone, literally everyone knows these people are not right in the head. It's crazy in itself.......wtf is wrong with everyone!

So, what would that look like?

Would we have something like a national registry or database for people being treated for mental illness? Would doctors be required to put their patients' names into the system? Perhaps pharmacists would enter the names of patients who are prescribed anti-depressants or anti-psychotic meds. Make this database mandatory for gun retailers to screen customers? Would it apply to ammunition purchases as well or firearms only?

 

[lwf]

I disagree with you somewhat, but your point is well taken. Gender dysphoria is a mental health condition and trying to make men into women or women into men will not fix that. 2nd amendment is a right and needs to be protected, but some reasonable restrictions based on facts and evidence as an case by case action seems fair. Convicted felons don't need guns, the mentally ill don't need guns, ooppps, that eliminates Transgender right there. Why we worry so much about people who are shooting up schools, supermarkets, etc but don't give a rat's ass about all the gang bangers and criminals using handguns to committ crimes all over our cities is hypocritical. The majority of gun deaths isn't from mass shooters, and the majority of legal gun owners in America have never committed a crime much less shot someone. We have laws to take care of the problems but democrats don't want to prosecute you garden variety shooter in NYC, LA, Chicago, Boston, and on down the line.

Depression is also a mental health condition. I wonder how many mass shooters were ever diagnosed with depression? I wonder how many currently law-abiding gun owners have ever been diagnosed with depression?

 

[ScrambledEggs]

I imagine this could also be a 1st amendment issue. So what if someone says they are a different gender?

 

[uptower]

 

[redbeer]

So, what would that look like?

Would we have something like a national registry or database for people being treated for mental illness? Would doctors be required to put their patients' names into the system? Perhaps pharmacists would enter the names of patients who are prescribed anti-depressants or anti-psychotic meds. Make this database mandatory for gun retailers to screen customers? Would it apply to ammunition purchases as well or firearms only?

Somebody, somewhere within this huge federal bureaucracy must be studying these mass shootings and the mental illness which accompanies them. Hell, I'm not a psychiatrist, but I know these killers are sick in the head. It's not the guns killing these children, it's the lunatics using guns.

We would expect professionals to be more knowledgeable than your bs antics and attempts to mock. Someone must be seeing common denominators between these sick people. If they are not, get some who can. Get rid of the idiotic blame game towards 'guns', for the guns are not killing people in mass shootings, it's the lunatics who use guns, who kill innocent people. Hard to imagine that this needs spelled out to the slower, lol.

 

[ScrambledEggs]

It's not the guns killing these children, it's the lunatics using guns.

Using the guns.

You're so close!

 

[Simpletruther]

This is probably the test run for a future authoritarian gun grab and generally disarming the population.

Yep

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Somebody, somewhere within this huge federal bureaucracy must be studying these mass shootings and the mental illness which accompanies them. Hell, I'm not a psychiatrist, but I know these killers are sick in the head. It's not the guns killing these children, it's the lunatics using guns.

We would expect professionals to be more knowledgeable than your bs antics and attempts to mock. Someone must be seeing common denominators between these sick people. If they are not, get some who can. Get rid of the idiotic blame game towards 'guns', for the guns are not killing people in mass shootings, it's the lunatics who use guns, who kill innocent people. Hard to imagine that this needs spelled out to the slower, lol.

I asked the question, what would it look like? You didn't answer that.

As far as I can tell, the common denominator is the guns they use.

How are we going to prevent the mentally ill from killing us (and still let them have guns)? We must never take the guns.

 

[redbeer]

I asked the question, what would it look like? You didn't answer that.

As far as I can tell, the common denominator is the guns they use.

How are we going to prevent the mentally ill from killing us (and still let them have guns)? We must never take the guns.

Take the guns, they'll use knives, take the knives, they'll use rocks.......take the guns, there's always the black market, always the opportunity to acquire guns. The left's proposal is ludicrous to the core, all political bs talk for the slower in the crowd.

People with a mental illness shouldn't be purchasing guns. Transgenderism is listed as a mental illness, isn't it? How did this nut purchase the guns? The left uses these situations as opportunities to destroy our Constitution and remove lawful citizens rights. The guns are only the tool used, it's the ones' squeezing the trigger that is our problem.

 

[ataraxia]

I disagree with you somewhat, but your point is well taken. Gender dysphoria is a mental health condition and trying to make men into women or women into men will not fix that. 2nd amendment is a right and needs to be protected, but some reasonable restrictions based on facts and evidence as an case by case action seems fair. Convicted felons don't need guns, the mentally ill don't need guns, ooppps, that eliminates Transgender right there. Why we worry so much about people who are shooting up schools, supermarkets, etc but don't give a rat's ass about all the gang bangers and criminals using handguns to committ crimes all over our cities is hypocritical. The majority of gun deaths isn't from mass shooters, and the majority of legal gun owners in America have never committed a crime much less shot someone. We have laws to take care of the problems but democrats don't want to prosecute you garden variety shooter in NYC, LA, Chicago, Boston, and on down the line.

The #1 source of domestic terror threat in this country is from conservative white males.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

I don't know how many trans mass shooters there have been in the USA but it's strange that one recent case seems to have the DoJ apparently looking to prevent certain social groups buying guns?

Some questions are raised by this and Google takes me to the National Institute for Justice website for figures over the last 50 years:
97% of mass shooters are male - so shouldn't men be banned from buying guns then?
52%-60% of mass shooters are white - so ban white people from buying guns?

What metric supports banning trans people alone? Is this playing politics for a political base with neolithic views?