10, I'd already seen it and it wasn't appealing. At all. It was like scar with a nipple.
WTF? 2 hours for sex? Is that normal?
Yeah about that...sorry I reported you earlier Lightdemon. I went all jfuh on you in my own special way. :2wave:
Seriously...sorry.
meh, w/e. I'm not butt hurt.
Well not for actual sex. That's normally like a half hour to 45 minutes. But there's this thing called foreplay.
Well not for actual sex. That's normally like a half hour to 45 minutes. But there's this thing called foreplay.
So can a female-to-male tranny actually get it up? Does anything...umm...come out of there when they orgasm?
So can a female-to-male tranny actually get it up? Does anything...umm...come out of there when they orgasm?
Possibly, and no.
They can "get it up" if it's actually their clit, enlarged by hormones and/ or mechanical devices.
They can't "get it up" if it's actually a rolled-up skin graft from another area of their body.
But either way, no, nothing comes out.
Well not for actual sex. That's normally like a half hour to 45 minutes. But there's this thing called foreplay.
I don't believe Jallman thinks the disorder itself is "pretend."
He asserted a "surgical solution" which involves manipulation/mutilation of ones genitals offers up a "pretend" delusion. The man who genuinely thinks he is in the wrong body cannot become a woman no matter how many surgical alterations he undergoes, no matter how many drugs he takes. No matter what he does he will still be a man, albeit an altered man. But a man nonetheless, not a woman. That's where the fantasy/pretend/delusion part comes into play. With surgery and hormones the aim is to get as close to the goal as possible so you can pretend you are in the "right" body. So you can pretend you are the right gender.
But you're not. You can't be. A man can't become a woman and vice versa. I'm sure the disorder is real. I'm sure there are folks who really feel like they are in the wrong body. But there's no surgical solution to that which doesn't involve fantasy and pretending, as Jallman said.
Exactly if the rift between body/brain is strong enough to cause severe mental anguish prior to surgery the same mental issues will be present post op. They may be lessoned or heightened to various degrees but the dysphoria doesn't go away. The disconnect between brain/body/presentation will still inevitably be all screwed up, forever.
Penis looks into the mirror and sees vagina...
Doesn't matter what penis's preference is at that point...it's already pretending to be vagina. There's the pathology.
According to whom?This would be a delusion. However, your explanation is inaccurate for the issue. This one is more accurate:
Penis looks in the mirror and sees penis...and recognizes that this is incorrect. Penis isn't pretending to be vagina. Penis recognizes that penis is in the wrong place.
According to whom?
And if the answer is the person looking in the mirror, wouldn't that fit delusional thinking since the reality is male genitalia which indicates "maleness." The "feelings" don't identify gender, sexual organs do.
It depends on how you understand gender. One school of thought is to define gender by one's sexual organs. Another is that gender has its basis in the brain, the formation of which predates the formation of the sex organs and is independent of them. This would negate the "delusion" argument.
No. Nothing came out. I am not quite sure how I would've handled it if something had come out.
Consequently, I was never able to achieve climax either. My mind would wander back to "it" and I just lost interest after a while. Plus he started complaining that he was getting sore and my mind began to wonder about the structural integrity of his pelvic area so I opted out of a happy ending.
People can survive in all sorts of ****ed-up conditions: no arms and legs, faces rotting off, giant tumors growing out of their heads. Just look at developing nations, the stuff people manage to survive for decades with.
A transexual person has survived in a grotesquely malformed body for decades: since birth, to be precise (which is to their credit, and points to their fundamental psychological fitness and health).
But every day has undoubtedly been a torture. One does not "get used to" hideous deformities.
One might live with them, but I'm sure one never loses hope that somehow, someday, one will be "fixed", freed from said deformity.
One gets up each day in a deformed body; one drags oneself through the days, because there is no choice, no immediate solution.
No one could thrive under such circumstances; their loathing of their bodies and their discomfort in them no doubt colors every minute of their lives.
Sex reassignment surgery in such cases is as humane as separating conjoined twins, as reasonable as removing a giant esophageal tumor that is slowly strangling off the person's breath.
What support is there that the perception of gender is something that occurs prior to the formation of sex organs? Are you now describing the perception of gender contrary to sex organs as an organic disorder? And, if it is an organic disorder, it is a brain injury, not an injury to the sexual organs. Thus, altering the sex organs is not treating the disease and rather operating on healthy tissue.
"brain injury"???? Granted the brain is involved here but, "injury"? Altering the sex organs, facial hair, chest, etc. all go to make the person feel and look more like what they know they are. You would have to be able to empathize with people's suffering to be able to comprehend this.
Captain said it is a disorder that occurs in the brain prior to development of the sex organs. In the normal process, the two would match--if it is a brain issue, then the "injury" that may need "repair" occurred in the brain and has nothing to do with the genetic expression of "male-ness" or "female-ness."
If you have trouble with vocabulary...a dictionary helps. A developmental disorder is an injury if it is organic in nature (meaning a physical problem rather than an emotional or psycho-social problem).A brain developmental disorder, if that is what we are indeed talking about, is not an "injury". Once again, you are trying to come off as wordier than you can handle. Speak using words you're comfortable using. You're only confusing yourself. Oi vey! :roll:
Because we don't feed into the delusional "feelings" of psychotic people because it is a detriment to them even if it might make them "feel" more comfortable. If GID is a delusion, changing sex is feeding into the delusion. If it is an organic problem, surgical work on the sex organs is not addressing the damaged part of the body, but rather cuts healthy flesh.Aside from that, we do not live in Star Trek times where Bones could swipe his medical wand over someone's head and make it all right. These issues cannot be corrected, not now anyway. These people feel down deep in their bones that they are one sex inside and the other outside. And they have felt this way as long as they can remember. That's it. Period. Why is that so hard for right wingers to accept?
If GID is a delusion, changing sex is feeding into the delusion.
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