kaya'08
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So a US type federal system?
So boroughs get power or areas?
SE or Bromley for example.
And independent as in removed entirely from EU?
Actually I personally think it would. It wouldn't be exactly like the US but I'd have most power locally, then at the county level and then regional level with little left at the national and UK level but things like defence and foreign affairs.And well ask him, and no, not a federated system. That wouldnt work on a country as small as the UK.
I'm not really sure, I'm quite non-interventionist but I don't mind some defensive treaties and such.Basically, but i dont know about his thoughts on NATO.
Basically, but i dont know about his thoughts on NATO.
Lol
That is suicide. We can't remove entirely form EU or NATO.
I believe in giving power to the historic regions of England but most importantly I believe in social conservatism, decentralised gov't and society and a decentalised, distirbutist economy.
That goes with saying. Like most Brits I'm eurosceptic.
Of course we can remove ourselves from the EU. We don't benefit much from it anyway. Why would you think we couldn't?
Because you were getting perilously close to an argument that could have been classed as primitivist.
I'm quite the ecologist but I do believe man will always have to make quite a lot of an impact on the environment for his needs. Also this argument of yours is inconsistent with the championship of the city. Hell it is inconsistent with such a megatroplis as what is now London.
I hunt deer and rabbits as well(well I don't personally hunt foxes anyway.). We recognise different sets of behaviour between humans and humans and animals, or most of us do.
They seem to be thriving to me.
It place within the community as a past-time and ritual.
I'm certainly not making it up. I understand the history of fox-hunting unlike most of those on the anti-side. As Quintin Hogg said 60 years ago, fox-hunting was a form of religion to many conservatives, it certainly had a very important ritual and communal place.
Because we are a tiny little country, barely exporting much. We are not in the same position as Germany which is just damn near perfect.
We need alliances, we need ties.
I disagree with that, but even so what is your point?Because we are a tiny little country, barely exporting much.
Perhaps but this is no argument for abandoning our sovereignty to the EU. Personally I'd rather be the 51st state of the USA than that.We are not in the same position as Germany which is just damn near perfect.
We need alliances, we need ties.
I disagree with that, but even so what is your point?
I believe a lot more self-sufficiency would benefit us, and most people, a lot.
Perhaps but this is no argument for abandoning our sovereignty to the EU. Personally I'd rather be the 51st state of the USA than that.
Actually I personally think it would. It wouldn't be exactly like the US but I'd have most power locally, then at the county level and then regional level with little left at the national and UK level but things like defence and foreign affairs.
Im quit paranoid that regionalism could eventually lead to seperatism.
Ofc it will lead to that.
Scotland will be independent eventually if SNP continue
Regionalism as in for example, Cornwall, Dorset, not entire land masses or simply Burroughs. For example, North London and South London regionalism, i guess.
I disagree very much.Woah, two different things here. As you stated, sometimes man NEEDS to make its impact on the environment. That need is London.
We'd have less iphones and plasma screen tv? I have very different idea of a good economy to you.Without London the UK will be slacking far behind the rest of its European economies.
Well firstly this is irrelevant for your argument, secondly it is important enough for country people and its impact is small. Thirdly the heavy handed attitude you urbanites are taking seems to say you think it is important.Fox hunting isn't something thats important and worth impacting the enviournment over.
I don't think they are that low.Theres a line with me on this issue. Hunting foxes that are in large numbers on the countryside with no uneccessary violance, just a simply "bang", is okay. Excessive hunting and killing of Fox's which is what this sport had become is stepping over that line. Im sure we can wait a few years for there numbers to make a standing again?
My past experience and all I've heard.Your not in the UK nor are you in the countryside. What end are you looking at?
Proof? The sport is banned.Is that a justification to the endless slaughtering of a creature who's numbers where dropping dramatically due to the sport?
Well you admit the importance and place now but simply object to it, while it is not actually your business, but simply put the little bit of suffering above that. This is where we disagree. But as I have said I support violence reduction, I simply object to the heavy handed intervention of Westminister gov'ts in such an ancient practice on the support of middle-class urbanites. If more compromise and less authoritarianism and over-the-top rhetoric was used me and others would be far more accommodating.I dont care, screw conservatives and there need to kill Fox's for a bit of adrenaline. If they have a past time ritual or "religion1 that involves savagery and damage to the local environment they can convert to Humanislam
Who knows what will happen. The point is to try and make it.Nah. That would never happen.
Lets hope the EU does as well.But the United Kingdom will eventually break up.
Nah. That would never happen.
But the United Kingdom will eventually break up.
Who knows what will happen. The point is to try and make it.
Lets hope the EU does as well.
Laila, you know we have local MP's? Yeah, that is regionalism. Basically that, just they have a bit more power, and the central government (AKA Labour Party) has a little less power. We already have regionalism, so it can happen. Wessexman is simply advocating, that, we actually establish true regionalist governments, not one in name with very little power.
Well narrow distributism is based on Catholic social teaching and the writings of Anglicans and Catholics like G.K Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc(Tolkien was a dsitributist as well.). Here is an intro.What the hell is a distributive economy?
Laila, you know we have local MP's? Yeah, that is regionalism. Basically that, just they have a bit more power, and the central government (AKA Labour Party) has a little less power. We already have regionalism, so it can happen. Wessexman is simply advocating, that, we actually establish true regionalist governments, not one in name with very little power.
Lisbon is passing this year. No way will it break up.
It will merely get stronger.
We have MP's for boroughs and councillors for councils. Yes.
Hmm, i'm neutral on transferring power.
I do want reform but that seems a little radical. Would people want it?
Currently what the people want is irrelevant or that is how the EU and the likes of New Labour conduct business --- Lisbon being a case in point. But I would only support my measures with popular support and hence work to achieve that.We have MP's for boroughs and councillors for councils. Yes.
Hmm, i'm neutral on transferring power.
I do want reform but that seems a little radical. Would people want it?
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