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Tories scramble to undo prorogation damage

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After weeks of being pilloried for shuttering the Commons, Stephen Harper is trying to win back disaffected Canadians by adding extra House sittings in March and April to recoup some lost time.

The proposal sets a trap for opposition parties, which must consent to the move or undermine their complaints about Mr. Harper's Dec. 30 decision to prorogue Parliament until March 3.

“We would be more than surprised if the opposition disagreed,” a senior Tory said.

The change would effectively cancel two weeks of planned parliamentary breaks, including one in March that MPs often use for vacations.

A Conservative official, speaking on background, rejected the suggestion the move is a tacit admission that shutting down the House was a bad idea.

“The purpose of prorogation was to allow the government to prepare a new Throne Speech and a budget. It was not to reduce the amount of time that the House sits,” the official said.

The change would not recoup all the days lost to prorogation; the extra sittings would still fall 12 days short of the 22 that were cancelled when Mr. Harper shut down Parliament until March.

Mr. Harper and opposition parties are wrestling for control of the political agenda as the Commons remains closed, with the Conservatives trying to reverse voter disenchantment over prorogation – and their rivals trying to entrench the anger instead.

The Prime Minister made a show of lifting the veil on his normally secretive cabinet deliberations, trying to demonstrate that the Tories are busy during the parliamentary break crafting an unemployment-busting budget.

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Harper sets a trap for the opposition - The Globe and Mail

Despite Tory propaganda this is clearly a bit of frantic scrambling to try to make up for the prorogation fiasco.
 
Exactly.

He must think Canadians are stupid, and can see right through this.

And now, he is forcing MPs to vote and take away their regularly scheduled vacations plans with their families to save face. What a maroon.
 
Exactly.

He must think Canadians are stupid, and can see right through this.

And now, he is forcing MPs to vote and take away their regularly scheduled vacations plans with their families to save face. What a maroon.

Yeah, this reeks of last minute desperation. The Tories must have had a collective "Oh ****" moment at their last cabinet meeting when they looked at the polls. :mrgreen:
 
Despite Tory propaganda this is clearly a bit of frantic scrambling to try to make up for the prorogation fiasco.

what, in canada politics, is prorogation? And don't just say tory ****.
 
what, in canada politics, is prorogation? And don't just say tory ****.

It's when the Prime Minister asks the Governor-General to suspend Parliament for a period of time when it would be normally in operation.
 
It's when the Prime Minister asks the Governor-General to suspend Parliament for a period of time when it would be normally in operation.

How has it backfired on the Tories?
 
How has it backfired on the Tories?

To put it lightly, yes. Last year the Tories were in Majority government territory in the polls. Now according to the polls, the Tories could lose the election if one was held right now!
 
To put it lightly, yes. Last year the Tories were in Majority government territory in the polls. Now according to the polls, the Tories could lose the election if one was held right now!

No, I'm not asking if it has backfired on the Tories but how has it backfired on the Tories? What did the Tories plan to do with prorogation? Why didn't it succeed?

I'm an American (but never a Yankee) so I don't understand the subtleties of Canadian politics.
 
No, I'm not asking if it has backfired on the Tories but how has it backfired on the Tories? What did the Tories plan to do with prorogation? Why didn't it succeed?

I'm an American (but never a Yankee) so I don't understand the subtleties of Canadian politics.

Oh, sorry, I misread your post.

There are two basic reasons why people think that the Tories did this. One is to try to take the light off the Afghan Detainee torture scandal that the Opposition was hitting the Tories hard with. The second reason was that with the prorogation, and a batch of new appointees, Harper has taken control of the Senate (which is appointed in Canada) from the Liberals, which he will use to help him push through his agenda. Prorogation was done for political expediency, this is the second time in a short period of time that Harper has done this.
 
Michael Ignatieff has no problem working through two scheduled parliamentary break weeks in March and April.

The Liberal Leader does have some trouble, however, with the Prime Minister addressing the British Columbia Legislature while he’s shut down his own chamber here.

And today he challenged Stephen Harper to “restart” Parliament next week.

“It does seem a little odd that he is prepared to address a working legislature while he’s closed down his own. I mean, go figure,” Mr. Ignatieff said, referring to reports the Prime Minister is addressing the B.C. Legislature next week.

And Mr. Ignatieff joked that he’s a little worried Mr. Harper is going out to the West Coast to prorogue that chamber, too.

Mr. Harper’s spokesman, Dimitri Soudas, would not comment as to whether his boss is speaking in the Victoria legislature next week. He said there was no “confirmation” of that.

Mr. Ignatieff, meanwhile, was speaking to reporters in advance of his roundtable meeting on the environment.

The Liberals have been working every day on Parliament Hill since Jan. 25, the day the House was to return from its Christmas break. But late in December, the Prime Minister announced he was shutting down Parliament until March 3.

Canadians reacted angrily to Mr. Harper’s prorogation decision; Conservative support has dropped dramatically in public opinion polls.

In reference to Mr. Harper’s request to cancel the parliamentary break weeks, Mr. Ignatieff accused the Conservatives of being in a “scrambling act to try to catch up, catch up to the Liberal Party.”

“This is a government desperate to repair the damage that its own follies have committed,” he said.

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Liberals game to work through parliamentary break weeks - The Globe and Mail

Iggy is playing the situation well.
 
And who is Stephen Harper?
 
And who is Stephen Harper?

Are you quite serious...? You are aren't you. He's the Prime Minister! Here's a clip of him, and the other leaders (the Liberal Leader Stephane Dion has since been replaced) in the House of Commons during a political crisis we had last year. Shortly after this video was recorded, Harper prorogued Parliament for the first time in his Prime Ministerial career. The current incident was the second time.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xInw95VmyzU"]YouTube- Leaders in the House of Commons December 2, 2008[/ame]
 
Are you quite serious...? You are aren't you. He's the Prime Minister! Here's a clip of him, and the other leaders (the Liberal Leader Stephane Dion has since been replaced) in the House of Commons during a political crisis we had last year. Shortly after this video was recorded, Harper prorogued Parliament for the first time in his Prime Ministerial career. The current incident was the second time.

YouTube- Leaders in the House of Commons December 2, 2008

No offense, but I have enough trouble keeping track of everyone who's a political leader here in the U.S., my home country, let alone the political leaders of all the other nations. I don't say this because of an arrogant attitude or because I have willful ignorance and no interest in Canadian politics. It's more like my biggest worry at the moment is how my own country is doing and fighting for my political beliefs at home.

What kind of politics does Harper believe in?
 
No offense, but I have enough trouble keeping track of everyone who's a political leader here in the U.S., my home country, let alone the political leaders of all the other nations. I don't say this because of an arrogant attitude or because I have willful ignorance and no interest in Canadian politics. It's more like my biggest worry at the moment is how my own country is doing and fighting for my political beliefs at home.

What kind of politics does Harper believe in?

Fair enough I guess. But I think that everyone should know who the leaders of their neighboring countries are!

I'm not going to teach you Canadian Politics 101, but here are some links to look at that will give you the basic rundown of federal politics in Canada.

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Parliament]Parliament of Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_of_Canada]Conservative Party of Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Canada]Liberal Party of Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democratic_Party]New Democratic Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloc_Quebecois]Bloc Québécois - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
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