LOL carrying the Vaqueros would be like carrying bricks, they are all stainless. I own 2 but I dont carry them for protection.
Sorry, just a comment, it struck me funny.
I'm sorry but I don't see here death as inevitable. She bought the NRA kool-aid and is dead for it. I'm sure she actually believed that her gun could never hurt her only make her safer. That is what the NRA is selling..peace of mind. It doesn't include any of the "ugly" side of gun ownership and neither do gun dealers. Like that fact that your own gun is 10 times more likely to kill you or a loved one than a bad guy. If she had known the risks she would probably be alive today...a lot of people would. Guns are not for everyone, and selling them like appliances is criminal negligence.
Well some friends of mine do Halloween parties, so next year I'm thinking about being paladin from have gun, will travelso I'm thinking about getting a vaquero to carry for that... Then my carry can be part of the costume
I have made it abundantly clear that the takeaway from this tragedy should be firearm safety - learning from her mistakes.
But realistically, if the toddler had shot a clerk rather than the firearm owner, the firearm owner would be facing some criminal charges and likely civil penalties as well. She didn't have simple error in judgment, she totally disregarded the rules of CCP and her obligations as a mother.
I believe we do a great disservice the predominantly responsible firearm owners to see her errors as being less than they are.
I think the over-reaction to this issue (from anti-gun folks) be because her error was not seen as bad as it was. It was bad as a CCP holder it was bad as a parent.
Unfortunately she will never be able to learn from her own mistakes - but others can.
I did not print that comment the newspaper did.Then you leave the comment out. You dont print irresponsible comments just to make people feel better. THen no one learns and others may suffer.
Deaths are not in vain if people can learn lessons from them.
I watched those old shows in re runs when I was a kid and I think Josh Randall was the best.Well some friends of mine do Halloween parties, so next year I'm thinking about being paladin from have gun, will travelso I'm thinking about getting a vaquero to carry for that... Then my carry can be part of the costume
The gun was in her purse, not her pocket.
This is just another reason why purse'carry is felony-stupid.
These people are on the kitsapGood luck. The leather costs a fortune. Unless you have, I hope you can borrow something fancy. And hope the homeowner/guests think they're fake otherwise...ack...Seattle....you will have alot of discussion, to say the least! And dont hand them to anyone....that's illegal now!
I did not print that comment the newspaper did.
I think it would be unfair to call her irresponsible in general everyone makes mistakes and hers turned out to be fatal. I mean less you're that one perfect person is never done anything wrong, then comment away. The problem is many people here are not calling the act irresponsible, they're calling someone who can't come and defend herself irresponsible
Or run a red light. I drive truck for a living,you'd be amazed just how many people you can see texting while driving when you can look down at them
I know, I was referring to the paper, they should have left it out. Not yourself.
So it would have been better had the child killed someone else so she could have learned from her mistake? Seriously? What you consider unfortunate, I do not in that regard.
Actually according to the report.. her gun was secured in her purse in a purse specially designed for concealed carry. I am familiar with these type of purses.. they have a hidden pocket, that is dedicated for the gun.. its not like it was in the main bag, or main compartment with her other belongings.. that she was going in and out of. Which by the way... is probably the MAIN way that women carry concealed.. in a main pocket in a purse.. not in a dedicated concealed carry bag. This lady was likely much more secured in her carry than the vast majority of females that carry.
.By all accounts this WAS an accident. I don't find a need to blame anyone... things happen. That's it
Yes there is, but it's terminal, the end.I have seen video of someone texting while walking and falling in a canal!
Here it is:
You can cure ignorance with education but there's no cure for stupid. (That I know of.)
I would like to see the news article. I see that because there's a lot of old guns out there that don't have those firing pin safeties. But the other thing, is that when I've talked with police officers who've investigated things like this, they'll have someone claiming that the gun just went off or they dropped it, and when the cops look at the gun it's mechanically in perfect working order.. People often have their pride really hurt by accidental discharges and in many cases they're willing to forget that they had actually been playing with the trigger
Actually according to the report.. her gun was secured in her purse in a purse specially designed for concealed carry. I am familiar with these type of purses.. they have a hidden pocket, that is dedicated for the gun.. its not like it was in the main bag, or main compartment with her other belongings.. that she was going in and out of. Which by the way... is probably the MAIN way that women carry concealed.. in a main pocket in a purse.. not in a dedicated concealed carry bag. This lady was likely much more secured in her carry than the vast majority of females that carry.
By all accounts this WAS an accident. I don't find a need to blame anyone... things happen. That's it.
Do you think that icy water woke her up?
When you buy a new or used gun from a gun store in Florida, they give you a yellow pamphlet outlining the rules as far as minors and guns.
Yet, these things can and do happen.
I have several different ones, all designed for carry, but fanny packs scream "gun!" Plus I believe that fanny packs should be carried over the fanny...out of reach altho they work on the side too. I can have my hand on my gun, in my purse, walking thru a parking lot, and no one is the wiser. I just look like I'm getting my keys.
BTW, I know Kathy (Cornered Cat)...she's here in WA St.
As a fanny-pack wearer you're well aware of 'satchels', so if your comment wasn't sexist then you would have left out "as a man".Not sexism, reality.
Security asked me to leave last time I did thatGo look at the women's clothing aisle at the store....
Solution....not many option there ideal for hiding firearms.
Bro-Code #133: Bros shall not wear a Fanny Pack/Bum Bag.I use a fanny pack...
The other thing is, I was teaching a woman to shoot, and the belt loops on her jeans weren't wide enough to allow a pistol belt to be inserted, women's trousers evidentially have thinner belt loops
I read somewhere that Walmart's policy on CC is to follow whatever the law is of that particular state that the store resides. However, the management prefers the gun remain concealed. If it becomes visible, Walmart can respectfully ask that the weapon be concealed immediately; if the person does not respond to management's request, the person that is carrying could be asked to leave.
I wonder if the company's policy will change any now that this incident has happened?
Really?!!
Kathy Jackson, IIRC - I know her on gun forums as Pax.
Very cool!
She has a great reputation online - she is very knowledgeable, and doesn't take **** from morons.
Actually according to the report.. her gun was secured in her purse in a purse specially designed for concealed carry. I am familiar with these type of purses.. they have a hidden pocket, that is dedicated for the gun.. its not like it was in the main bag, or main compartment with her other belongings.. that she was going in and out of. Which by the way... is probably the MAIN way that women carry concealed.. in a main pocket in a purse.. not in a dedicated concealed carry bag. This lady was likely much more secured in her carry than the vast majority of females that carry.
By all accounts this WAS an accident. I don't find a need to blame anyone... things happen. That's it.
Now that you mention it, she could have got the message from you or someone like you. How would you feel if you were the one who told her she would be safer carrying a gun in her purse at Walmart or sold that mother the AR-15 that killed her and all those children in Sandy Hook? Would you be sorry?
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