VPC talking points....
Not having a round in the chamber of a carry gun relegates it's status to rock or paperweight.Well, it was basically not following firearm safety rules,
I was taught not to have a round in the chamber in semi auto pistols and rifles, and to leave one cylinder empty on a revolver where the hammer is in the rest position to prevent accidental discharge,
might be a good reason for people who want to own a firearm to attend classes to learn more than they think they might know.
Not having a round in the chamber of a carry gun relegates it's status to rock or paperweight.
Not having a round in the chamber of a carry gun relegates it's status to rock or paperweight.
I'm sorry but I don't see here death as inevitable. She bought the NRA kool-aid and is dead for it. I'm sure she actually believed that her gun could never hurt her only make her safer. That is what the NRA is selling..peace of mind. It doesn't include any of the "ugly" side of gun ownership and neither do gun dealers. Like that fact that your own gun is 10 times more likely to kill you or a loved one than a bad guy. If she had known the risks she would probably be alive today...a lot of people would. Guns are not for everyone, and selling them like appliances is criminal negligence.
I realize that, but, it is safer.
good thing she had it with her, I hear Wal-Mart is a dangerous p0lace to be nowadays.
Well, it was basically not following firearm safety rules,
I was taught not to have a round in the chamber in semi auto pistols and rifles, or on any pistol or rifle for that matter, and to leave one cylinder empty on a revolver where the hammer is in the rest position to prevent accidental discharge,
might be a good reason for people who want to own a firearm to attend classes to learn more than they think they might know.
No, you just deader in a worse case situation.I realize that, but, it is safer.
This is a very sad and unfortunate situation. I am all for 2nd Amendment rights, but more so for all the responsibilities that come with those rights, not to mention a common sense approach when it comes to carrying a deadly weapon.
Kids and guns....hello. Most people can't control their kids in the best of circumstances, so what makes them think that a loaded weapon should be anywhere near them?
I also don't understand what world we live in that makes us want to carry a weapon at all times, willing to shoot at anyone we perceive as threatening. I don't even know whom to fear more, a potential perpetrator or some gun lover with a nervous trigger finger. We can imagine being a hero, but are we?
This is a very sad and unfortunate situation. I am all for 2nd Amendment rights, but more so for all the responsibilities that come with those rights, not to mention a common sense approach when it comes to carrying a deadly weapon.
Kids and guns....hello. Most people can't control their kids in the best of circumstances, so what makes them think that a loaded weapon should be anywhere near them?
I also don't understand what world we live in that makes us want to carry a weapon at all times, willing to shoot at anyone we perceive as threatening. I don't even know whom to fear more, a potential perpetrator or some gun lover with a nervous trigger finger. We can imagine being a hero, but are we?
What I want to know is that if the shooter will be charged with involuntary manslaughter?
It's reported she had a CC permit, if that's the case, I wonder why she just didn't have it in a holster, wearing it on the hip-waist, and covered with a coat or sweater. I say this because I've seen a few people in stores doing it that way, it's obvious that a person is carrying though. Such a shame this happened.
May not have had a safety. Many don't. Its not unusual.
Mechanical safeties are an academic discussion. Guns don't have them anymore because they do little to improve safety and take time to take off under stress when you need your gun.
As far as guns firing when dropped, all modern handguns have internal safeties that keep the firing pin away from the cartridge until the trigger is pulled, modern handguns, like post 1965, should not just go off from being dropped
there are many that are produced without the safety lever, instead the "safety" is built into the trigger asm., requiring that someone pull the trigger to allow the pin to release.. its like adding about 1/8" extra pull on the trigger.
my last S&W .40 has this and i can understand how people have trouble with it..
It depends on what you're comfortable with. If you're carrying a Glock and can't keep your hands off the damned thing it's probably better to carry condition 3. Otherwise most pistols are perfectly safe to carry condition 1. WRT the kids....don't have the damned pistol where they can get their hands on it! If you're carrying somewhere that's not on your body then don't put the package down.
I'm assuming that this woman had the gun in her purse and the purse in the shopping cart. If so that's wrong on a several levels but at the top of the list is that she wasn't in control of the weapon.
"should not" is a nice thought, but not that long ago a gun was dropped in a movie theater and went off.
Well, it was basically not following firearm safety rules,
I was taught not to have a round in the chamber in semi auto pistols and rifles, or on any pistol or rifle for that matter, and to leave one cylinder empty on a revolver where the hammer is in the rest position to prevent accidental discharge,
I would like to see the news article. I see that because there's a lot of old guns out there that don't have those firing pin safeties. But the other thing, is that when I've talked with police officers who've investigated things like this, they'll have someone claiming that the gun just went off or they dropped it, and when the cops look at the gun it's mechanically in perfect working order.. People often have their pride really hurt by accidental discharges and in many cases they're willing to forget that they had actually been playing with the trigger
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