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That sounds all well and good EXCEPT the dad was the one who strapped the child into the car seat before pulling out of the driveway. That doesn't jive.
I don't know what that has to do with anything.
It has everything to do with what the father was aware of before pulling out of his driveway with the kid he strapped into the car seat behind him.
How the heck after going through the motions of strapping in a child into a car seat can you forget you have a child in the backseat 10 to even 30 minutes later depending how long it takes to get to daycare? How engulfed in his thoughts void of those of his own child must have he have been...
how many times do babies have to die in cars before people just quit doing it?
Can only post 2 paras, read the rest it is an eye opener.Do I think it is a crime that this father forgot about his toddler strapped in a car seat in the back of his car? Yes.
Did he purposely plan to leave his child in the backseat of a sweltering car for nine hours till he met his death? No. But neither was the one who struck another vehicle in an accident that took another's life. Negligence, wrongdoing that results in the harm of another is criminal.
It sound like the father that forgot he had a toddler in the backseat of his vehicle did not have his priorities in order. His main concern from the time he strapped the kid into the car seat would be to realize he had precious cargo on board and his first point of concern should be getting the child transported to a safe location before anything else take precedent for the day.
How in the Hell do you forget you have a child strapped in a car seat? How???????
Diamond is the memory expert with a lousy memory, the one who recently realized, while driving to the mall, that his infant granddaughter was asleep in the back of the car. He remembered only because his wife, sitting beside him, mentioned the baby. He understands what could have happened had he been alone with the child. Almost worse, he understands exactly why.
The human brain, he says, is a magnificent but jury-rigged device in which newer and more sophisticated structures sit atop a junk heap of prototype brains still used by lower species. At the top of the device are the smartest and most nimble parts: the prefrontal cortex, which thinks and analyzes, and the hippocampus, which makes and holds on to our immediate memories. At the bottom is the basal ganglia, nearly identical to the brains of lizards, controlling voluntary but barely conscious actions.
Can only post 2 paras, read the rest it is an eye opener.
Fatal Distraction: Forgetting a Child in the Backseat of a Car Is a Horrifying Mistake. Is It a Crime? - The Washington Post
You make the same drive to work every day, over and over and over, and normally you are not the one that drops off your child at daycare. Something different comes up in the family schedule and you take you child in to daycare instead of mom. Your child falls asleep within five minutes of leaving the house. During the drive you start thinking about what you have to accomplish at work that day. You drive to work and forget your silent, sleeping, rear-facing child is in the back seat. You get out of the car and enter your workplace.
That's how.
That psychobabble bull**** excuse for forgetting a child is pathetic...
I don't know what that has to do with anything.
Not very. It doesn't take all that much to go on autopilot and forget if dropping the kid off before work is not part of one's daily routine. Who strapped the kid in makes little difference.
I'm not disputing how horrifying of a mistake it is. How simple of a mistake it is to make is what makes it all the more horrifying, in my opinion. All I'm disputing with you is that you seem to think it must require some criminal degree of neglectfulness or self-centeredness to make. Almost any ordinary parent could make this mistake, including otherwise great parents. That's what makes it so scary.
Quit doing what? Having children? Driving with them anywhere? Working?
This should be a murder charge, or at the very least, manslaughter. There is no excuse for 'forgetting' a child - or a pet - in a car. None, zilch, zip, nada.
Odd how the brain works.
Yeah, no qualifications what so ever. The gall of the man.
http://psychology.usf.edu/faculty/data/ddiamond_cv.pdf
I am glad to know you are okay Vesper. I am the same way when it comes to hospitals. Although, I do a bit more insisting. especially with Civilian Hospitals. I can get away with it more there. Not at the VA.
Not very. It doesn't take all that much to go on autopilot and forget if dropping the kid off before work is not part of one's daily routine. Who strapped the kid in makes little difference.
I'm not disputing how horrifying of a mistake it is. How simple of a mistake it is to make is what makes it all the more horrifying, in my opinion. All I'm disputing with you is that you seem to think it must require some criminal degree of neglectfulness or self-centeredness to make. Almost any ordinary parent could make this mistake, including otherwise great parents. That's what makes it so scary.
I could care less what his qualifications are... a parent in a dead sleep will wake at the slightest odd sound from a baby. Parents brains are wired for their baby.
Again, that psychobabble bull**** excuse for forgetting a child is pathetic...
Your qualifications are? Or is that your personal experience & opinion speaking?
Judges will not ask that. if they are comfortable that you know the law and are capable of mounting a defense, fine.Qualifications and Appeals to Authority are meaningless in a debate. I am not a lawyer but have won against lawyers the two times I self-represented in court. When I Presented my arguments to the Judge he did not ask my qualifications and when I presented evidence that helped me beat the laywer in one case the Judge thought it was interesting that I knew of this evidence but the other lawyer did not.
In this case, my qualifications are that I am a parent that has never forgotten my children and this "expert" that you sourced claims he would have forgotten his grandchild and his psychobabble bull**** excuse for forgetting a child is pathetic...
Crap, I posted this in the wrong thread. My deepest apology. Don't know how I managed that one but evidently I did. So sorry.You can't rest in those places unless they totally knock you out or you are so close to death you could care less. They kept offering stuff for pain but I declined. I've been managing pain with Advil. On second thought I probably should have accepted the drugs. Last night I slept really well. There isn't much difference in my condition but I have strict orders to all the doctor if their are any changes. The doc at the hospital gave me his card with his personal number to call if things get worse. I have a specialist I need to get in contact on Monday. I was having an anxiety attack over the fact that my daughter is having major surgery tomorrow and I can't be there for her. Hubby will be going. Docs gave me a prescription for the anxiety, it seems to be working.
I didn't want Hubby to call anyone to let them know I was in the hospital. Especially the kids. One is facing major surgery, the other was on vacation with his family. I didn't think it was necessary for them to know at this time. Well son is home from vacation, and daughter called yesterday and now they know and are upset with me for not telling them. **** you can't win for losing. They made me promise I would never ever do that again........we shall see.I have some great kids, a son-in-law I dropped the "in -law a long time ago and that goes for my daughter "in-law". To hell with the in-law part they are my kids. I have a wonderful spouse, loving brother and a couple of old aunties who pray for me daily along with a couple of true friends. I didn't want anyone to know and all are upset that I didn't tell them. Lesson learned.
Judges will not ask that. if they are comfortable that you know the law and are capable of mounting a defense, fine.
On the other, you refuse to learn
Is it a horrible to lose a child. Yes.
But to label it all psychobabble is well.............your opinion.
No qualifications, no experience in these tragedies, again your opinion.
Crap, I posted this in the wrong thread. My deepest apology. Don't know how I managed that one but evidently I did. So sorry.
To err is human when you have two threads open at the same time and post in the wrong one is no comparison.Obviously this is a prime example as to how a parent might forget their child locked in a car...
To err is human when you have two threads open at the same time and post in the wrong one is no comparison.
Comparing an mishap over posting in the wrong thread to a parent forgetting a kid in the backseat of his vehicle that HE strapped into the car seat before taking off in his vehicle. That HE went through all the regular scenario all parents with children that work do daily is preposterous .
The guy has a heavy burden to carry the rest of his life because his head wasn't where it should have been.
Do you have a valid point? Refuse to learn seems to be your thing here.
Wrong about the Judge and wrong that his opinion is not an opinion...
His opinion is also his opinion because if it were a fact the evidence would be that thousands upon thousands of children a year would be dying in cars and that is not happening. As such, his opinion is psychobabble masquerading as expert. In the end if you want to accept his opinion as a fact that is fine with me but it certainly does not come close to proving a valid argument and yes, when certain lines of questioning occur Judges do in fact ask, if the lawyer has not made it clear, what the witnesses qualifications and expertise are.
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