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This thread is inspired by an assertion made in another thread:


However, can you acknowledge that for many of the non-believing posters who religiously follow God-related threads...………………….
…...............there is something undeniable that draws them to God-topics?


Here is the premise, reposted below.

I don't see myself spending time and effort reading, let alone posting, in areas that doesn't interest me.
Like, hanging out in the Health section and debating what is a false and true diet - based on science - do I ever go there?

Like I said, you and everyone else here who don't believe in the existence of God, have your own reason(s) why you are drawn to God-related topics.
I can understand a few tries out of curiousity - but to practically hang around? C'mon.

You know who you are.

I can't answer for you. What is yours?
 
I find religion and belief systems fascinating. Also, the banter can be humorous.
And, I’m always searching.
 
tosca1 said:
something undeniable
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You used these words (see above).
Therefore, you have a theory or a belief (see what I did there) as to why.

When you explain what that "something undeniable" is perhaps I'll play along.

In your opinion, what's the "undeniable something" that you think draws non-believers to the Skepticism Sub-forum?
 

Many are recovering from the scars of religion so it holds interest to us
 

Open hate mongering at Christians and Christianity is the religion of many progressive Democrats that they are fanatically zealot cultists members of.
 

"something," can be just about anything, right?
It's undeniable in the sense that we see it happening!
Certain non-believers (such as yourself), are very active in God-related topics! You're even prolific not merely in responding, but also in creating threads!

…...why?
 
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people who are real and believe in this stuff alter their behavior and how they treat others and how laws treat people based on it

its also fun to argue against people who handicap themselves so much makes me feel all warm and smuggley inside
 
There are two types, the non-believer and the antagonist. [those who hate religion and all things related] The latter are doing themselves a greater injustice, IMHO.
 





the people who hope that some cosmic being will justly kill or torture those who don't conform to ther faith are monsters like this and are only less dangerous if they believe their told not to take matters into ther own hands , and whether or not any gods are real people often create them in ther own image to work and justify their own will.
 

Alter their behavior from what? Being open to tolerating any sort of evil or deviance?
 
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Alter their behavior from what? Being open to tolerating any sort of evil or deviance?
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calling stuff evil based on faith is a common form of religious bull**** yes


tolerance being conditional on what you believe a god says to do to people you belive are evil because of what you i mean what "god " wants is bad if you don't want to be an evil deviant because some one is mad at you and says its because ther sky daddy tells them to be
 
blarg said:
people who are real and believe in this stuff alter their behavior and how they treat others and how laws treat people based on it
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Well....I can understand the part where secularist are coming from - but the topics posted here aren't really about politics and laws of society!




its also fun to argue against people who handicap themselves so much makes me feel all warm and smuggley inside
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Yes, I find that it's mostly the non-believers who "handicap" themselves.
Most of them are ignorant of what they criticize - and it pathetically shows. :shrug:
Therefore, they're in a forum - going by their emotions!

How much more handicapped can it be for someone who obviously is incapacitated and unable to control irrational emotional outburst (we see it here, too - when they purposefully deliver their arguments in the most offensive way they can muster).
 


Well, you can't just point to God/religion for that! Atheists have done a lot of killings....especially when we consider dictatorial regimes.
 
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Wow, this is a head scratcher. Why do both believers and skeptics post in this sub forum of a political forum dedicated to debating all issues?
 
devildavid said:
Wow, this is a head scratcher. Why do both believers and skeptics post in this sub forum of a political forum dedicated to debating all issues?
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Head scratcher? :lol:

Why would that be a head scratcher to you?
Could it be they're also interested in those issues that affect them? Like politics, health, technology, arts and entertainment....etc....,
Depends on what interests them, right? And, obviously they're affected by them!

Whereas...….non-believers who don't believe God even exists, would devote so much time, energy in a particular section devoted to God-related topics!

Why on earth would something they'd consider non-existent be of such interest to them? It's like being obsessed with green monsters!
I can understand children being obsessed with their cartoon characters - but, this isn't a children's forum, right?
How many topics do we have here on Big Foot, or the man in the moon? :lol:

So - I say, they are irresistibly drawn to God-related topics. Why?
 
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Or, you know, you could just be a normal person and answer the question, or skip the thread. :shrug:
 

Do you somehow think that religion doesn't affect non-believers, just because we don't believe in a God(s)? Because it absolutely does. Throughout society, and in many cases, in our own personal lives, in which many of us have had to put up with religion affecting us in negative ways. I've gone through that myself.
 

G'morning Tos.

I like your question...it is genuinely interesting. Try not to let yourself get trolled and turn this into a nightmare thread. You might get some interesting answers, if you skip the derision. I'm hoping so, anyway.
 

That's politics, right? If you happen to live in a society that's religious (majority) - of course, the values and laws would reflect that.
BUT, in that case - you aim to change the system!

You don't harp on the existence of God, or the fraudulent Scriptures, etc..,
 

So, I'm guessing I understand where Tos is going with this. The Beliefs / Skepticisms sometimes get to be more of a revenge glory hole than anything else - indiscriminate derision aimed at anyone who expresses a personal belief, irrespective of whether or not that person was responsible for their pain. What do you think the appropriate response should be from believers, who, understandably, get tired of being told they are idiots? How does one bridge this gap through an anonymous debate forum? Or is there a point in trying?
 

Because it is a topic that draws believers and skeptics and it is entertaining to debate this topic? And religion has real world consequences? Religious belief is a motivating factor in human behavior and so is of interest to all human beings, whether they believe or not.

So don't get your hopes up. Skeptics aren't searching for something, or drawn by something that you believe in. They are drawn by the fact that you think everyone must be drawn by it. They are curious about how human beings can believe in things for which there is no rational reason to believe. And very many skeptics, myself included, were raised in religious households. So the interest in religion is quite natural and understandable.

But for me, there is no lingering doubts or hopes of finding something that isn't there. So don't pat yourself on the back thinking that all human beings need what you need.
 

I speak about religion because I think it's the bane of humanity. I think it does much more harm than good. With that said, I also say believe what you wish, just don't insist I believe what you do. I also think most people who consider themselves christians are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites for the most part.
 

When you can explain to me in a way I believe, I'll find your god. So, tell me, how does a human live in the belly of a fish for three days without dying?
 

When I'm arguing about the validity of religion, of course I'm going to talk about his existence, as well as all of the archaic, and many times regressive values that are espewed within the Bible. That really depends on the conversation at hand. If I'm having a conversation about religion, I'm going to discuss the fact that there's not any valid or verifiable evidence to support any of it.

I am helping "change" the system, in the sense that I will always aim to maintain a secular society, where religion and state are entirely separate. That's what I want to keep in tact above all.
 

Do you know the meaning of the word irony?
 
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