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Um....one of those options does not contain "nuclear WWIII and bring on the end of the world." How are you putting "my business shuts down" in one column and "nuclear armageddon" in the other and concluding, "Yep, looks the same to me!"
The candidate most likely to get us into nuclear war is Hillary Clinton. She has a proven record of authorizing wars and conflicts in the middle east.
I'll vote. Since I'm an American I don't think either candidate from the two major parties is worth voting for. I will vote though because I would like to see whichever corrupt, lying, self-centered, greedy clown gets elected to take office with a 35% of the vote mandate.
If you don't vote, then one of the twits can say, "I have 60% of the vote and have a mandate to destroy America," even is the voter turnout is the lowest percentage of eligible voters ever.
Good god.....fearmonger much???/ :roll:
Good god.....fearmonger much???/ :roll:
Voting third party isn't throwing your vote away because at least you will be counted in the popular vote. Yes, either Trump or Hillary is going to be the next President. But whichever one of them it is I sure as hell don't want them to think they have a "mandate". The smaller percentage of the popular vote they have the more on ice they will feel they are. I want him or her to wake up every morning in the White House knowing that they didn't get the majority of the votes. And voting third party plays a very small, but tangible, role in doing that. If you stay home instead of voting 3rd party that helps the winner's popular vote numbers.
From overseas, how is it that Americans only have a choice of voting between bad and worse? We look upon America as being in the throes of a decline, as all nations eventually go into a decline.
And choosing either one of those candidates is a sign of the beginning of the decline of that country.
And what is even worse are the millions of lemming Americans who will blindly go with the crowd.
So you prefer hair over conservative lies ... Take the time to ''fact check'', then weigh the ''bad'' things about Mrs Clinton .. NOT perfect .. be she .. Do you think Ron Reagan was ''Mr Perfect'' ?if Ohio wasn't a toss up state I'd vote Johnson but since Hillary is even more loathsome than Trump I choose the bad hair day over the Clinton Crime Family
So you prefer hair over conservative lies ... Take the time to ''fact check'', then weigh the ''bad'' things about Mrs Clinton .. NOT perfect .. be she .. Do you think Ron Reagan was ''Mr Perfect'' ?
I really hate when people trot in and say, "You didn't offer my preferred poll option.", but really, there should be a simple 'Yes' option.I'm seriously considering not voting in this upcoming election. The Republican candidate leaves much to be desired (to say the least) and the Democratic candidate is the worst in decades (which is saying something). Voting for a third party would be "throwing my vote away," and I don't particularly support Gary Johnson's ideology anyway, so I really fail to see the point in putting out the energy to go in that direction either.
I really don't see much in the way of other recourse here, but to simply abstain.
Don't get me wrong. I live in a pretty heavily Red State to begin with, so I doubt it'll make that much of a difference. However, it would feel like doing to something to protest what's happening right now, which is better than nothing.
We'll just have to wait and see whether I change my mind before the actual election arrives.
Anyone else feel the same way?
My thoughts exactly. Not voting, if it results in lower voter turn-out, sends a message all by itself.
Will the establishment actually care? Of course not. However, they're not going to care if I vote for a third party candidate, who's only going to lose, either. It's a wash in any eventuality. :shrug:
I personally find that reprehensible. I believe a person should be allowed to vote for whomever they want. Provided it's a real person who is otherwise eligible to serve. No Mickey Mouse, etc.All right, so anyone left wondering, the write-in ban or limited access was ruled constitutional in 'alan b burdick v morris takushi'
SCOTUS upheld Hawaii's ban on write-ins under the guise it would burden the state that is forced to hold elections, a decision i clearly don't agree with
I'm seriously considering not voting in this upcoming election. The Republican candidate leaves much to be desired (to say the least) and the Democratic candidate is the worst in decades (which is saying something). Voting for a third party would be "throwing my vote away," and I don't particularly support Gary Johnson's ideology anyway, so I really fail to see the point in putting out the energy to go in that direction either.
I really don't see much in the way of other recourse here, but to simply abstain.
Don't get me wrong. I live in a pretty heavily Red State to begin with, so I doubt it'll make that much of a difference. However, it would feel like doing to something to protest what's happening right now, which is better than nothing.
We'll just have to wait and see whether I change my mind before the actual election arrives.
Anyone else feel the same way?
I'm seriously considering not voting in this upcoming election. The Republican candidate leaves much to be desired (to say the least) and the Democratic candidate is the worst in decades (which is saying something). Voting for a third party would be "throwing my vote away," and I don't particularly support Gary Johnson's ideology anyway, so I really fail to see the point in putting out the energy to go in that direction either.
I really don't see much in the way of other recourse here, but to simply abstain.
Don't get me wrong. I live in a pretty heavily Red State to begin with, so I doubt it'll make that much of a difference. However, it would feel like doing to something to protest what's happening right now, which is better than nothing.
We'll just have to wait and see whether I change my mind before the actual election arrives.
Anyone else feel the same way?
Voting third party isn't throwing your vote away because at least you will be counted in the popular vote. Yes, either Trump or Hillary is going to be the next President. But whichever one of them it is I sure as hell don't want them to think they have a "mandate". The smaller percentage of the popular vote they have the more on ice they will feel they are. I want him or her to wake up every morning in the White House knowing that they didn't get the majority of the votes. And voting third party plays a very small, but tangible, role in doing that. If you stay home instead of voting 3rd party that helps the winner's popular vote numbers.
Why is there no option for voting enthusiastically for either Clinton or Trump? I will vote enthusiastically for the Democrat and the ideology. I couldn't care less about the particular person or their idiosyncrasies. Voting for or against a person is so shallow a reason.
I'm seriously considering not voting in this upcoming election. The Republican candidate leaves much to be desired (to say the least) and the Democratic candidate is the worst in decades (which is saying something). Voting for a third party would be "throwing my vote away," and I don't particularly support Gary Johnson's ideology anyway, so I really fail to see the point in putting out the energy to go in that direction either.
I really don't see much in the way of other recourse here, but to simply abstain.
Don't get me wrong. I live in a pretty heavily Red State to begin with, so I doubt it'll make that much of a difference. However, it would feel like doing to something to protest what's happening right now, which is better than nothing.
We'll just have to wait and see whether I change my mind before the actual election arrives.
Anyone else feel the same way?
My thoughts exactly. Not voting, if it results in lower voter turn-out, sends a message all by itself.
The message being "don't worry about me, I don't matter"
Seriously, we already have almost half the people not voting....what message has that sent? And it's gone of for quite a few election cycles, have the Republocrats changed? You think the Republocrats care if you don't vote? No. They will keep some amount of people as party supporters, and that's really all the want. The guaranteed vote for them, and anyone that may cause problems should just stay at home.
Staying at home is a great way to tell the government "carry on, I'm not really going to get in your way" .
Is not the candidate who supports their party affiliation and its ideology what is of paramount importance to you? You should vote for the ideology with which you align yourself most closely. The particular person embodying that ideology is of secondary concern.
Um....one of those options does not contain "nuclear WWIII and bring on the end of the world." How are you putting "my business shuts down" in one column and "nuclear armageddon" in the other and concluding, "Yep, looks the same to me!"
Well, the thing is, "nuclear armageddon" is not guaranteed under Trump while the loss of my business is pretty much guaranteed under Clinton. That's what makes it about a 50/50 choice. If Trump can keep us away from "nuclear armageddon" then my business will probably thrive under Trump instead of folding under Clinton, as long as Trump stays away from large minimum wage increases.
By the way, the Iran Deal Obama made (assuming that Iran does not violate it) buys us 10 years of a non-nuclear Iran, after which Iran is free to make all the nuclear weapons it wants, which will bring us closer to armageddon as well. Whoever is president at that time will be left holding Obama's bag.
I personally find that reprehensible. I believe a person should be allowed to vote for whomever they want. Provided it's a real person who is otherwise eligible to serve. No Mickey Mouse, etc.
Elections are supposed to be held for the people, not the convenience of the state.
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