yeah, but the voice of the people is supreme
Prop 8 was democratically passed.
This is just another example of how anti-democratic progressives actually are.
no it proves the point that over a few thousands of years of civilized history you can only find two examples of gay marriage, and the two examples you give were lunatic maniacs. How does that make anyone want to jump on board as far as historical precedence goes
No they weren't. They were both struck down after decades of fighting them under the 14th Amendment, put in place right after the Civil War. Those laws weren't struck down until the 1960s.
You do understand "Jim Crow laws" preexisted the Equal Protection Clause - the same clause that was used to justify your examples?
Understand?
And you know what?
Those laws were changed because the constitution was amended or addendums were added to preexisting amendments.
And you know what?
Those laws were changed because the constitution was amended or addendums were added to preexisting amendments.
Furthermore if Prop 8 was so damn illegal then how the hell did it even make it on the ballot? got an answer for that?
Why not amend the constitution??
oh yeah because gay marriage would NEVER pass
Pure democracy is stupid and nothing more than mob rule. The demands of the majority must be tempered by the rights and liberties of the minority. I'm sure that as a libertarian, you understand this concept.
I'd rather have direct democracy than a democratic republic......
Furthermore all democracy is nothing more than "mob rule" - that's why we have a Bill of Rights and constitution. Presently marriage is not a ****ing right - therefore marriage can be defined by the state via the Tenth Amendment.
I'd rather have direct democracy than a democratic republic......
Furthermore all democracy is nothing more than "mob rule" - that's why we have a Bill of Rights and constitution. Presently marriage is not a ****ing right - therefore marriage can be defined by the state via the Tenth Amendment.
I wonder if anyone who favors a direct democracy would be fine with their judge being selected by a lottery.
I wonder if anyone who favors a direct democracy would be fine with their judge being selected by a lottery.
False. Anti-miscegenation laws were ended by Loving v Virginia. Segregation in schools was ended by Brown v Board of Education. Two of the most famous Supreme Court decisions in the history of our country.
People put unconstitutional legislation on the ballot all the time. I'm guessing mostly by people who don't understand the constitution any better than you do.
Because the current constitution comports to the interests of people who didn't like prop 8. Changing it would be redundant.
Um... it already has passed in Vermont, New Hampshire, DC, New York, Washington, Maine, Maryland, Rhode Island, Delaware and Minnesota. :shrug:
Sorry but prop 8 was exactly that - a proposition passed via direct democracy....
If prop 8 violated the constitution then why the **** was it on the ballot?
Prop 8 DOES NOT violate the constitution because marriage is NOT a right or civil liberty - it never was in the United States and it never will be.
Also, the NE is extremely progressive and their population(s) amount to nothing. The NE is a horrible example - especially when attempting to use it as a template for the United States.
Wow....don't know what to say about that. There is no protection of rights and liberties in a direct democracy.
It's exactly mob rule. 50% + epsilon gets your way. The Bill of Rights and the Constitution is meaningless in a direct democracy which can be empowered with a simple majority. In a democratic Republic, the government is restricted in what it can and cannot do, so even if the majority wishes to subject the rest to slavery; the government cannot do it.
Marriage in and of itself is not a right, but contract is. And when government usurped marriage, they turned it into government issued and recognized contract.
Irrevelent. I didn't comment in my post to you regarding my views of prop 8. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter whether something is democratically passed if it is unconstitutional. The popular vote is moot. No Constitutional amendment required. Pay attention.I don't give a **** how poor of a law you think prop 8 is - the fact is that the law was democratically passed...Your opinion is moot....Why not amend the constitution?? oh yeah because gay marriage would NEVER pass -- even at the federal level.
way to dodge the question LOL
thats what i thought
I didn't dodge anything - you just don't understand what I said and how it relates to your "inquiry."
Irrevelent. I didn't comment in my post to you regarding my views of prop 8. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter whether something is democratically passed if it is unconstitutional. The popular vote is moot. No Constitutional amendment required. Pay attention.
riiiiiight did you think anyboyd honest would fall for that?
translation: you dodged it
Yes there is we call it the Bill of Rights and the constitution.
In what universe is a democratic republic not "mob rule?"
Like the House or Senate can pass legislation without "mob rule" within their own ranks?
Yes of course contract is a right - so why don't gays start righting their own civil contracts instead of bitching???
Translation you're trying to change the subject like every progressive does when they're put in a corner...
Do you not understand that "Jim Crow Laws" preexist the Equal protection clause??? do you know what that means???
Also, the NE is extremely progressive and their population(s) amount to nothing. The NE is a horrible example - especially when attempting to use it as a template for the United States.
Furthermore all democracy is nothing more than "mob rule" - that's why we have a Bill of Rights and constitution. Presently marriage is not a ****ing right - therefore marriage can be defined by the state via the Tenth Amendment.
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