Those of us concerned about the environment will have to forfeit the climate change fight.

[watsup]

I do not need your stupid links. I was first raised in Timber Territory, just west of that Santiam area. Lived other places in Oregon after that.

Then why were you wrong regarding the "need" to remove old growth trees, when that was clealry not the case? I was just trying to give you information to overcome your biases.

 

[Craig234]

We need to refocus on funding conservation organizations efforts to combat their efforts to roll back our existing environmental protections and conservation measures.

While it's good to fund them, they seem very limited in how they can help. They don't change the regulators or politicians in place, and those regulators and politicians aren't interested in their policies.

 

[CLAX1911]

Those of us concerned about Anthropogenic Global Warming have the science on our side, the problem is we have lost the political battle. Another Trump administration will pause any domestic progress towards reducing co2 emissions and will likely set us back a decade or more.

Trump or any other president won't have anything to do with it. China produces more CO2 than all other countries combined.

You could do genocide and wipe out half the people in the western world and it won't make a dent

There is no changing that. However, unfortunately, one only has to look at his cabinet nominees to see that the environmental threats go far beyond that. Our wilderness protections are at risk. Our remaining old growth forests are at risk. The Endangered Species Act is at risk. Our National Forests are at risk. We need to refocus on funding conservation organizations efforts to combat their efforts to roll back our existing environmental protections and conservation measures.

What we really need to do to protect our forests is clear underbrush. Did you know there's forests in the UK that haven't burned in over a thousand years despite human activity being very common there. This is because they clear out the underbrush.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

While it's good to fund them, they seem very limited in how they can help. They don't change the regulators or politicians in place, and those regulators and politicians aren't interested in their policies.

At minimum they can tie them up in the courts and delay the worst.

 

[Craig234]

At minimum they can tie them up in the courts and delay the worst.

What a disaster there will be four years of more Federalist Society judges appointed.