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Get NASA and it's bloated and wasteful bureaucracy out of the way and leave American space exploration to either a) the military or b) the private sector.
NASA should have been disbanded after Apollo ended, imo.
And before some/most of you go all 'NASA is wonderful - we need them'. Remember that the Saturn V, the Space Shuttle and just about every part of every rocket NASA has used was designed and built by - wait for it - the private sector.
NASA may have been great for getting to the Moon first. But since then, imo, they have done little more then waste money, try and find a reason to justify it's existence and get 14 brave people killed thanks to it's pathetic Go Fever.
Thoughts?
As with most things, the private sector "innovates" off the back of public sector R&D.
Get NASA and it's bloated and wasteful bureaucracy out of the way and leave American space exploration to either a) the military or b) the private sector.
NASA should have been disbanded after Apollo ended, imo.
And before some/most of you go all 'NASA is wonderful - we need them'. Remember that the Saturn V, the Space Shuttle and just about every part of every rocket NASA has used was designed and built by - wait for it - the private sector.
NASA may have been great for getting to the Moon first. But since then, imo, they have done little more then waste money, try and find a reason to justify it's existence and get 14 brave people killed thanks to it's pathetic Go Fever.
Thoughts?
I would say it is the exact opposite.As with most things, the private sector "innovates" off the back of public sector R&D.
We definitely cannot allow NASA to be under military control. You ain't seen a government waste money until you see the military waste money. At least with NASA being it's own agency there's hints of accountability. Under the military there won't be any accountability at all.
I mean, I could write a hundred pages on what NASA has done, and he just tried to handwave all of it with one paragraph. "Eh, they just waste money and kill people!" The one thing he does give them credit for, he tries to undermine by saying the private sector constructed things.
Constructed under the design, oversight, guidance, expertise, and funding of NASA. But sure, give all the credit to the guy who bolted pieces together. He's the only one who matters, I guess.
But SpaceX can land a booster stage on a floating pad with a 50% success rate, woo private sector! *cough* still with help from NASA.
I said nothing about NASA being controlled by the military...they are two completely seperate entities.
Get NASA and it's bloated and wasteful bureaucracy out of the way and leave American space exploration to either a) the military or b) the private sector.
I would say it is the exact opposite.
All NASA (amd the military) basically does is come up with guidelines/goals and they leave it to the private sector to design and built the products (and weapons) almost exclusively on their own.
For instance:
'The prime contractor for the program was North American Rockwell (later Rockwell International, now Boeing), the same company responsible for building the Apollo Command/Service Module. The contractor for the Space Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters was Morton Thiokol (now part of Alliant Techsystems), for the external tank, Martin Marietta (now Lockheed Martin), and for the Space Shuttle main engines, Rocketdyne (now Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne, part of United Technologies)'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_program
Other then setting general guidelines and getting the dough...how did NASA 'develop' the Space Shuttle (or any other major rocket system for that matter)?
Are you sure?
Funding is nothing...any idiot can get funding. Especially when it is from Congress.
Oversight and Guidance...again, so what? Once they set the initial parameters...they are superfluous.
Design? Nonsense. NASA did NOT design the Space SHuttle OR Apollo. These systems were designed and manufactured BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR. NASA got the dough, set the guidelines and the goals and supervised everything like mother hens. But without the private sector, NO WAY Americans would ever have set foot onthe Moon. No chance at all.
Expertise? Don't make me laugh. I guarantee you the people that designed and built the rockets know a HECK of a lot more about them then the 'experts' at NASA do.
And Space X has done what it is has on $1 billion total. And if they are so awful, then why does NASA not use it's own launch systems instead of paying Space X to? Oh...that's right. They don't have any.
Useless bureaucrats.
Now, instead of overreacting like a schoolgirl...where are your links to factual, unbiased proof that the private sector could not do exactly what NASA does and at a fraction of the cost?
Not theories or opinions...factual proof.
Because without it...you are just spewing forth overemotional bile.
What I meant was that the military has to be able to do it's own space launches using it's own systems...as it does now (military satellites).
Whereas the private sector should handle all non-military space explorations going forward (which NASA does now)...like going to the Moon again or to Mars or to the ISS.
As with most things, the private sector "innovates" off the back of public sector R&D.
you would be incorrect. do you remember the infamous o-ring?
What I meant was that the military has to be able to do it's own space launches using it's own systems...as it does now (military satellites).
Whereas the private sector should handle all non-military space explorations going forward (which NASA does now)...like going to the Moon again or to Mars or to the ISS.
no it doesnt, not true
I would say it is the exact opposite.
All NASA (amd the military) basically does is come up with guidelines/goals and they leave it to the private sector to design and built the products (and weapons) almost exclusively on their own.
For instance:
'The prime contractor for the program was North American Rockwell (later Rockwell International, now Boeing), the same company responsible for building the Apollo Command/Service Module. The contractor for the Space Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters was Morton Thiokol (now part of Alliant Techsystems), for the external tank, Martin Marietta (now Lockheed Martin), and for the Space Shuttle main engines, Rocketdyne (now Pratt & Whitney Rocketdyne, part of United Technologies)'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_program
Other then setting general guidelines and getting the dough...how did NASA 'develop' the Space Shuttle (or any other major rocket system for that matter)?
Get NASA and it's bloated and wasteful bureaucracy out of the way and leave American space exploration to either a) the military or b) the private sector.
NASA should have been disbanded after Apollo ended, imo.
And before some/most of you go all 'NASA is wonderful - we need them'. Remember that the Saturn V, the Space Shuttle and just about every part of every rocket NASA has used was designed and built by - wait for it - the private sector.
NASA may have been great for getting to the Moon first. But since then, imo, they have done little more then waste money, try and find a reason to justify it's existence and get 14 brave people killed thanks to it's pathetic Go Fever.
Thoughts?
And that is largely because they are bureaucrats...they answer to no one.
The private sector cannot afford to make such public relations disasters for fear of losing their jobs. They take less chances not because they care more...but becasue they cannot afford NOT to care more.
It's only a matter of time until China has nuclear missiles in space. We need better missiles, more of them, and better stealth satellite technology.
Get NASA and it's bloated and wasteful bureaucracy out of the way and leave American space exploration to either a) the military or b) the private sector.
NASA should have been disbanded after Apollo ended, imo.
And before some/most of you go all 'NASA is wonderful - we need them'. Remember that the Saturn V, the Space Shuttle and just about every part of every rocket NASA has used was designed and built by - wait for it - the private sector.
NASA may have been great for getting to the Moon first. But since then, imo, they have done little more then waste money, try and find a reason to justify it's existence and get 14 brave people killed thanks to it's pathetic Go Fever.
Thoughts?
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