Here is an interesting study on a city previously disbanding their police department.(CNN)Last week, Minneapolis officials confirmed they were considering a fairly rare course of action: disbanding the city police department.
It's not the first locale to break up a department, but no cities as populous have ever attempted it. Minneapolis city council members haven't specified what or who will replace it if the department disbands.
Camden, New Jersey, may be the closest thing to a case study they can get.
The city, home to a population about 17% of Minneapolis' size, dissolved its police department in 2012 and replaced it with an entirely new one after corruption rendered the existing agency unfixable.
Before its police reforms, Camden was routinely named one of the most violent cities in the US.
Now, seven years after the old department was booted, the city's crime has dropped by close to half. Officers host outdoor parties for residents and knock on doors to introduce themselves. It's a radically different Camden than it was even a decade ago. Here's how they did it.
This city disbanded its police department 7 years ago. Here's what happened next - CNN
Here is an interesting study on a city previously disbanding their police department.
This city disbanded its police department 7 years ago. Here's what happened next - CNN
Here is an interesting study on a city previously disbanding their police department.
This city disbanded its police department 7 years ago. Here's what happened next - CNN
Here is an interesting study on a city previously disbanding their police department.
Except they aren't really disbanding the police. They just cleaned house.
It’s hard to tell if replacing local police with county police is an example of what the abolish police folks mean. Camden is still one of the nation’s most dangerous cities having the third highest murder rate in the country.
This city disbanded its police department 7 years ago. Here's what happened next - CNN
Here is an interesting study on a city previously disbanding their police department.
It is time for this to happen across the nation, out with the old and bring in a better model of law enforcement.
Realistically, even if something entirely new replaces the police, its going to need to have similar powers. I am not sure its possible to have a different type of organization, at least I am not aware of any historical precedent for any larger population centers. Law enforcement either tends to be police or secret police, choose one.
That’s a good point. Maybe a local police force isn’t necessary for a place like Camden (population 77,000) but try something like that in a place like Chicago and it would be absolute mayhem. I’m also not sure why anyone thinks that abolishing police entirely and replacing them with the general population is a good idea.
That would be the advantage, it gets the union out and sets everything to a new and cleaner model. The union will come back of course, but everything (at least in human society) is cyclical anyway.
You know, the more I think about it, the more I'm against a union in this particular segment of society. Considering the power they wield and the authorities they are granted (with good reason), they need to be answerable to the public. Union protection, in my opinion, is a big problem here.
You know, the more I think about it, the more I'm against a union in this particular segment of society. Considering the power they wield and the authorities they are granted (with good reason), they need to be answerable to the public. Union protection, in my opinion, is a big problem here.
Not really. It's their endorsement of politicians that is the problem. Outlaw that
Do you mean that the police forces publicly endorses certain politicians? If so, yeah, that's a big problem too.
It’s hard to tell if replacing local police with county police is an example of what the abolish police folks mean. Camden is still one of the nation’s most dangerous cities having the third highest murder rate in the country.
One very important metric was vastly improved after the Camden police department "reform" was done - the conviction (solve?) rate for homicides (and other violent crimes) went way up. That can only be accomplished with citizen (community?) cooperation, it takes time and effort to get that very necessary citizen (community?) cooperation (trust?) and to overcome the "snitches get stitches" nonsense. It is essential that the local police officers are seen as contributing members of the community and not as its enemies.
Lawsuits filed against the department uncovered that officers routinely planted evidence on suspects, fabricated reports and committed perjury. After the corruption was exposed, courts overturned the convictions of 88 people, the ACLU reported in 2013.
Cappelli credits the improvement to new "community-oriented policing," which prizes partnership and problem-solving over violence and punishment.
It starts from an officer's first day: When a new recruit joins the force, they're required to knock on the doors of homes in the neighborhood they're assigned to patrol, he said. They introduce themselves and ask neighbors what needs improving.
Training emphasizes deescalation, he said, and the department's use of force policy makes clear that deadly force is the last option.
Police brutality cases went down by 95%
When I hear of people discussing disbanding police departments, I think of Winston Churchill's quote,
Quote by Winston Churchill: “We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men ...”
“We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”
The police, are those rough men(and women) who stand between polite society,
and those who would harm us or take our property, simply because they could, and there was no one to stop them.
We can call the police by whatever name we choose, but the need of their services still remains.
Within our society is a tiny minority spread across all races, that have demonstrated that they have no regard
for the life and property rights of others.
What serves as a conscience for those lacking a moral compass is the fear of the ramifications if they are caught.
Someone or something, needs to be there to instill that fear!
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