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This chart shows how everything has changed since Trump became president

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From an NBC affiliate, no less.

THINGS ARE BOOMING.

Cutting corporate taxes and draconian, anti-commerce regulations WORKS.

Time to start CUTTING EXCESS SPENDING and WASTE from the Federal budget, wouldn't you say?




This chart shows how everything has changed since Trump became president


The chart below, using mostly data compiled by Goldman Sachs, quantifies just how much things changed from the days just before the election in November 2016 through September 2018.

Of course, the stock market has weakened in October, which has been its historically most volatile month. The chart doesn't include GDP, which has averaged 2.72 percent since Trump took over, compared to the 1.6 percent gain in 2016 .








https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/20/cha...|finance|headline|story|&par=yahoo&yptr=yahoo
 
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Yet you never hear any credit given from the major news networks evening news except Fox News.
 
Hanky said:
Yet you never hear any credit given from the major news networks evening news except Fox News.
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No pone even tries to pretend anymore that the Fake News is anything but a leftist propaganda arm...although this is an ONLINE article from CNBC..we won't be seeing it on the NBC Nightly News or MSNBC, most assuredly.

They keep chanting the Lie Mantra, "Obama did it!"
 
Hanky said:
Yet you never hear any credit given from the major news networks evening news except Fox News.
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Americans out in the real world are experiencing the good times, left and right, and they know what's going on. When they step into that voting booth they pull whatever handle that benefits them the most. Unless they are a radical leftist Brownshirt and they just want more misery and chaos and screw America.
 
And, of course, from the DP left:


 

83% of Americans wages are only up an average of .07%
Compared to the consumer price index, which up 2.9% (highest jump in 10 yrs)
Gas up 29.8%
Food up 3.6%
Healthcare up 2.4%
Rent up 3.5%
Transportation up 3.9%

You simply have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Financing GDP growth with debt has been tried since since the 1980's when Reagan did it...It was a bad idea then and it is a bad idea now. The difference is that Reagan wrongly thought that the GDP growth would eventually pay back the debt, now we know that it will not but we dont give a damn because the global economy is getting ready to crash into a pile a debt no matter what we do now, so PARTY ON!

The other big problem with this plan is that it fuels inequality, and then the societal collapse that causes.

This is how much we suck now.

We used to be better.
 



BULL****. Zero certification of your claims...AS USUAL.

You simply make up BULL**** and pretend that it's true.

I provided the GOVERNMENT"s own data.
 
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CUTTING SPENDING is the ONLY WAY to cut the debt.

When people are EQUALLY TALENTED, INTELLIGENT and MOTIVATED, they will then have ECONOMIC EQUALITY.

Ain't gonna happen, and no government can change that.

Ask Venezuela. The former USSR. Red China. Cambodia under Pol Pot. The survivors of the Pathet Lao. Etc., ad nauseum.
 
Grokmaster said:
BULL****. Zero certification of your claims...AS USUAL.

You simply make up BULL**** and pretend that it's true.

I provided the GOVERNMENT"s own data.
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Thanks for admitting I'm right and you can't dispute those numbers.

Another easy win.
 

The take away of course is that we refuse to learn.

The BIG PAIN that is headed our way (it is too late for reforms to prevent that, not that we are interested in the needed reforms mind you) will fix that.

EVENTUALLY
 

This is a great example of how you should not use opinion pieces as a source of information. They misuse statistics to create a distorted impression. Let's look at just the first item on the chart, which should make what that means clear.

Average hourly wages, what could be wrong with that? Well, there is no comparison. BLS tracks that though: https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2018/real-average-hourly-earnings-up-0-point-2-percent-from-august-2017-to-august-2018.htm. One quick glance at the chart shows that, holy ****, hourly earnings increases took a nosedive at almost the exact same time Trump took over as president. As of August, the real average hourly earnings was up 0.2 % for the past year. Meanwhile, the Consumer Price Index rose 2.9 %. So what we have, when we compare with other relevant data, is wage increases much slower than before Trump became president, and much lower than the cost of living has gone up. The end result is a reduction in spending power for most people since Trump took office.

So what we have learned is that it is easy to lie with statistics, simply by not including all relevant data, which is exactly what your source editorial did.

Edit: Just as an example, I used the same method as the opinion piece in the OP to hide an important bit of data. See if you can figure out what that is.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The take away of course is that we refuse to learn.

The BIG PAIN that is headed our way (it is too late for reforms to prevent that, not that we are interested in the needed reforms mind you) will fix that.

EVENTUALLY
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We'll see. The POTUS is already pro-actively addressing spending....watch the Swamp APE- **** fighting it.
 

UNALTERED STATISTICS show the FACTS.+


Meanwhile , wages took their BIGGEST JUMP IN OVER A DECADE this year...( that PREDATES Trump's Administration.)

You're the one trying to manipulate statistics to HIDE THE FACTS...
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Thanks for admitting I'm right and you can't dispute those numbers.

Another easy win.
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Originally Posted by Grokmaster:

BULL****. Zero certification of your claims...AS USUAL.

You simply make up BULL**** and pretend that it's true.

I provided the GOVERNMENT"s own data.


Your response:
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Thanks for admitting I'm right and you can't dispute those numbers.
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Because calling out your completely UNSUBSTANTIATED, MADEUP BULL**** NUMBERS = "admitting you're right", and I "can't dispute' the completely unsubstantiated,, MADEUP BULL**** NUMBERS you posted.....


 
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:shock: Holy cow, the Hell froze over! I just liked Hawkeye10 post! Someone else must have hacked into her/his account and made that post?!

Agree 100%, Hawkeye10, or the hacker...

eace
 
Slavister said:
:shock: Holy cow, the Hell froze over! I just liked Hawkeye10 post! Someone else must have hacked into her/his account and made that post?!

Agree 100%, Hawkeye10, or the hacker...

eace
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There are a lot of things I dont talk about here for one reason or another none of them sinister....but I have made sure to be clear that I am a socialist of the Zen sort, and that Western Civilization is crashing mostly due to humongous errors we have made.
 
GWR every month does a same railcar load for each commodity. Tracks fairly parallel with our economy.
 
Grokmaster said:
UNALTERED STATISTICS show the FACTS.+


Meanwhile , wages took their BIGGEST JUMP IN OVER A DECADE this year...( that PREDATES Trump's Administration.)

You're the one trying to manipulate statistics to HIDE THE FACTS...
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Ummm, BLS disagrees with you. Wages increases are down. I documented this, with facts. Randomly capitalizing words will not make your claim true.
 

Thanks for admitting I'm right and you can't dispute those numbers.

Another easy win.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Thanks for admitting I'm right and you can't dispute those numbers.

Another easy win.
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Ummmm...ok.... :2wave:

Glad you admit that you can't backup the bull**** numbers you made up.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir

83% of Americans wages are only up an average of .07%

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COMPLETE and TOTAL LIE....



Wages, benefits rise at fastest pace since 2008




Pay and benefits for all U.S. workers increased 2.8 percent in the April-June quarter from a year earlier , the most since the third quarter of 2008. Total compensation for private industry workers — which excludes state and local employees — rose 2.9 percent, the best since the second quarter of 2008.



Wages, benefits rise at fastest pace since 2008 - Chicago Tribune



Der....ummm...duh...
 
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I take it statistics were never your strong suit.
 
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