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Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit men’s Viagra access

I know, but its fun to watch them dance.

Well, on this message board, it may be fun to watch 'em dance, but in the real world? It's lies, deceit and manipulation of the worst kind. Politicians are whores.
 

Isn't the entire point of the BC hoopla that BC should be free like the air we breathe? No insurance necessary ... and if you don't agree, then you must be against women's rights and therefore a sexist who's against women.
 
Well, on this message board, it may be fun to watch 'em dance, but in the real world? It's lies, deceit and manipulation of the worst kind. Politicians are whores.

So true. Find a wedge and drive it home.
 
So true. Find a wedge and drive it home.

you don't get that republicans are doing exactly that? proposing unconstutional bills requiring unnecessary procedures simply to pander to their base?
 
Isn't the entire point of the BC hoopla that BC should be free like the air we breathe? No insurance necessary ... and if you don't agree, then you must be against women's rights and therefore a sexist who's against women.

It came onto the front burner because of the Congressional hearings re separation of church and state. All the witnesses were religious leaders. The Democrats wanted Ms. Fluke to testify about Georgetown...the Republicans said, "No, this is about religion and whether or not Obamacare has the right to mandate that every employer provide birth control pills." The Dems saw this as a way to make political hay, so they convened an "informal hearing" (no Republicans in attendance) to listen to Ms. Fluke. The rest is a tangled web of misinformation and mud slinging.
 

maggie, this is mostly in response to the abortion bills that have come out in the past year or so. don't tell me those bills are not targeting women, because they certainly are.
 
maggie, this is mostly in response to the abortion bills that have come out in the past year or so. don't tell me those bills are not targeting women, because they certainly are.

I don't see this Viagra bill as an example of what you're talking about, but I know of other legislation that fits your bill. Don't we have the capacity to understand that many people find abortion abhorant? These "abortion limiting bills" aren't targetting women. They're targetting abortion.

If these bills pass, then that's the will of the people, yes? (At least it should be.) Every state doesn't enjoy a Republican majority. And if those kinds of laws pass in a state that does have a Republican majority, well, then next session...when the Dems are in charge...they can reverse the legislation, no?

All Democrats are not for abortion. All Republicans are not against it.
 

I'm 45 and I take viagra.

I also take heart medications blood pressure medications diuretics.

Quality is IMHO a important part of health issues. Getting depressed is not healthy and using viagira improves my quality of life.
 



You do realize this is a false argument, republicans could give a **** if birth control is covered, what the problem is, is forcing a church who has a university to have BC paid for through thier health insurance.

The left is lying about the argument framing it the way you are framing it, in a ditch to scare people into voting for them. It is as transparent as day.
 

If that's all that Republicans care about, why did they file the Blount-Rubio amendment seeking to allow ANY employer to drop coverage for birth control?
 
If that's all that Republicans care about, why did they file the Blount-Rubio amendment seeking to allow ANY employer to drop coverage for birth control?

Well, I'll "Like" that because I wasn't aware of it.

But the Blount Amendment actually says something to the effect that employers should not have to include specifics in their healthcare plan that they find objectionable. It had the support of four Democrats, by the way. Oh, and it was absolutely NOT limited to birth control or women's issues...any treatments they find objectionable.

How do we spell stupid? Blount Amendment.

This is alllll because of Obamacare mandating minimum coverage requirements. Nothing more.
 

It sounds to me like a pretty good argument for minimum coverage requirements ... at least as long as we're going to rely on employer-provided health coverage. The federal government pays close to $500 billion a year to support employer-based coverage, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that they would impose some minimal guidelines as a condition of that support.
 

How is ED treatment equivalent to abortion?
 

Yes, because obviously the solution to too many laws is to make more laws.
 
How is ED treatment equivalent to abortion?

I think that was explained in the quote you commented to. Both are issues of privacy and in the case of abortion forcing a woman to get an ultrasound is an unnecessary step. So forcing men to also undergo an unnecessary step shouldn't be a problem with conservatives who don't believe in privacy.
 
If that's all that Republicans care about, why did they file the Blount-Rubio amendment seeking to allow ANY employer to drop coverage for birth control?



Possibly because it's elective? I think health care providers should be allowed to drop such elective coverage, creates competition wear if you are a single woman and prefer your sex unprotected, you can find an insurer who will.
 

I'm forced to undergo unnecessary steps all the goddamn time. The justification has always been that if you don't want to go through the unnecessary steps, don't do the action. It always fascinates me how that logic rings so very true until a specific group happens to be stricken by it.

While I don't agree with the ultrasound legislation, which seems irrelevant since that was in Oklahoma and this is Ohio, I think this is the completely wrong way to approach this issue and only succeeds in being confrontational. Which, of course, will greatly appeal to the base you agree with, though it will be less than effective with those who don't.
 

This is awesome! The statement these lawmakers are making is of their supreme idiocy.
 
Possibly because it's elective? I think health care providers should be allowed to drop such elective coverage, creates competition wear if you are a single woman and prefer your sex unprotected, you can find an insurer who will.

In other words, contrary to your earlier assertion, Republicans AREN'T just concerned about the religious aspect.

What's the updated version of Reagan's old quip about the scariest words in the English language? "Hi, I'm from the goverment and I'm here to help stick a 10" want in your vagina."
 
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This is awesome! The statement these lawmakers are making is of their supreme idiocy.

My understanding is that lawmakers are supposed to represent all of their constituents, not just those of a particular race, religion or sex.
 
This would hurt women FAR more than it would hurt men, methinks. The only reason I would take viagra is to satisfy my wife. I can get an orgasm with or without. So the point is flatter than a brick.
 
My understanding is that lawmakers are supposed to represent all of their constituents, not just those of a particular race, religion or sex.

In this case they're only representing women who can have children, and not even all women per-se. So this leaves out most women over age 45/50, pre-teen girls, and any woman who is infertile for any reason.

.....but they call me the woman hater :lol:
 
completely untrue, but thanks for the input.

Your smartass attitude isn't going to win you an converts. No doubt you'd rather have enemies then friends.
 
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