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These states have joined the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact to replace the Electoral College

This may be the Democrat's only hope in 2024.

It's not surprising they would attempt an end run around the Constitution...since they won't be able to use their election fraud a second time.
They will be for it, right up till it bites them in the ass.
 
It doesn't replace anything. The EC will still meet and still cast their votes, but what it means is that regardless of who wins those states, those states will throw their EC votes to whoever wins the popular vote.
 
This may be the Democrat's only hope in 2024.

It's not surprising they would attempt an end run around the Constitution...since they won't be able to use their election fraud a second time.
Having people cast votes and then adding them up to see who has the most votes and declaring that person the winner is really anti American.
 
As of June 2021, it has been adopted by fifteen states and the District of Columbia. These states have 195 electoral votes, which is 36% of the Electoral College and 72% of the 270 votes needed to give the compact legal force.
 
"She said candidates should be forced to campaign across the entire country, not just in a handful of swing states.


“Right now, we see both candidates hunkered down in Pennsylvania. You know, Pennsylvania has nothing to do with Colorado, or California, or Texas.”


Hear, hear!!!!
 
Wait. What does this mean specifically?...


"So far, 15 states and the District of Columbia have approved the pact, covering 196 electoral votes of the required 270 to win the presidency

That 270 matters: The states that have approved legislation to join the compact agreed it would not take effect until the 270 threshold is reached. Once it does, those states will have the power to use their Electoral College votes to elect a winner, according to the popular vote. This uses the Electoral College to effectively phase out the Electoral College, though it would not apply to states that do not sign up."
 
This may be the Democrat's only hope in 2024.

It's not surprising they would attempt an end run around the Constitution...since they won't be able to use their election fraud a second time.
It is also unconstitutional. States are specifically prohibited from entering into compacts without the approval of Congress. Since the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact does not have congressional approval it is invalid and cannot be employed without violating Article I, Section 10, Clause 3 of the US Constitution.

No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state, or with a foreign power, or engage in war, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay.
 
Wait. What does this mean specifically?...


"So far, 15 states and the District of Columbia have approved the pact, covering 196 electoral votes of the required 270 to win the presidency

That 270 matters: The states that have approved legislation to join the compact agreed it would not take effect until the 270 threshold is reached. Once it does, those states will have the power to use their Electoral College votes to elect a winner, according to the popular vote. This uses the Electoral College to effectively phase out the Electoral College, though it would not apply to states that do not sign up."

It means that the states are doing something that is unconstitutional.

Those who are not in the compact will have standing when they sue to have this kind of garbage undone.
 
Another fine example of Democrats protecting your right to vote the way they tell you to.
Yes selecting a President by the popular vote like every other democracy is protecting the sanctity of the vote. Every vote should count equally don't you think?
 
It means that the states are doing something that is unconstitutional.

Those who are not in the compact will have standing when they sue to have this kind of garbage undone.
“It's hard to imagine that something that's important wouldn't get challenged in court,” Bernstein said.

“We feel very confident that we would survive those challenges. The Constitution is very clear that state legislators have the exclusive and plenary right to award the state's electors however they so choose. And so that's exactly what this compact does.”
 
"She said candidates should be forced to campaign across the entire country, not just in a handful of swing states.


“Right now, we see both candidates hunkered down in Pennsylvania. You know, Pennsylvania has nothing to do with Colorado, or California, or Texas.”


Hear, hear!!!!

Great. In place of swing states you'll now have swing population centers.

Big difference.
 
“It's hard to imagine that something that's important wouldn't get challenged in court,” Bernstein said.

“We feel very confident that we would survive those challenges. The Constitution is very clear that state legislators have the exclusive and plenary right to award the state's electors however they so choose. And so that's exactly what this compact does.”

Feel as confident as you want.

Entering the compact is unconstitutional.
 
Yes selecting a President by the popular vote like every other democracy is protecting the sanctity of the vote. Every vote should count equally don't you think?

No.

The founders were quite clear on the issues with what you call "democracy".
 
They were never intended to be that way by the founders. The states elect the president.

Correct.

It's unfortunate the protectors of federalism have failed us.

People forget that states were intended to play a key role in our lives.
 
This may be the Democrat's only hope in 2024.

It's not surprising they would attempt an end run around the Constitution...since they won't be able to use their election fraud a second time.
If the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact succeeds, it would effectively kill today’s Republican Party.

Personally, I would applaud the complete destruction of today’s Republican Party.

Beyond that, I see real reason for concern if the Democrat Party (any party, really) was given full control of our federal government.
 
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