If the Trump Democrats had heard this stuff years ago, they’d have revolted. But Black Lives Matter protestors forced Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders to affirm support for them publicly, outside of the safe confines of a black church with no cameras rolling. So, the last remnants of the Robert C. Byrd/Ku Klux Klan wing of the Democrats, bolted.
They’re Trump voters now. They are the Trump Democrats.
Trump Democrats are real, are abandoning Hillary, and the unions are in a panic.
The Unions think that they can keep white voters in the Democratic fold by offering them goodies from the public trough. I suspect that this will have less appeal than they think. These people have already been on the public dole for years; what they want is jobs and a better life. Moreover, they want the Democrats to stop pandering to black lives matter, Latinos, and what not and pander to them again, or at least pay attention to their concerns. Here perhaps they are not aware of the extent to which Democrats have gotten hostile to white workers. Unions might find themselves with nowhere to go but Trump.
It seems like you did not read the article because I am not sure that the individuals discussed in this piece are the types of individuals that you should want to associate yourself with.
I'll overlook the KKK references and address the issue as presented.
Unions support for the Dems comes, at least in part, because the right sold out to corporate interests long ago. And corporate interests are oppositional to union worker interests for the most part. Whats happening, and it's really magnified with someone like Trump representing the right, is that union workers are figuring something out. After Bernie's campaign and many of the issues it brought into the spotlight (as well as some of Trumps rhetoric, if to a smaller degree), they're starting to see that the Democrats have also sold out to corporate interests and have just been trying to keep up appearances for as long as possible. So that traditional loyalty is dissolving, and I'm sure many are feeling a sense of betrayal with this realization. Enter Trump with his "Make America Great Again" and his "China cheats" and "Trade deals sent our jobs over seas" and that really starts to resonate when looking at the epitome, the absolute culmination of everything-that-is-the-corporate-democrat known as Shillary. The GOP has a real chance to pull unions in here, it's probably one of the few positives Trump brings them. Of course he has his own history to own up to as a the owner of a rather large corporation himself (and 4 bankruptcies to boot), but as with so many things, the negatives of both candidates cancel each other out to large degree, and the unbalanced remainder is given more weight than it deserves.
Gina Raimondo is our governor here in RI. She's backing a proposed power plant that will end up 1 mile behind my house (very rural area) and tank my property value (it already has, just the proposition, and it's still up in the air). She also blew something like $5 million on a new tourism logo design that was terrible. Every time I see her name I curse corporate democrats everywhere and vow to vote them out as soon as something acceptable runs against them. But sadly, even that low bar was too high for the GOP with regards to the presidency.
Guilt by association arguments don't impress me. The truth is where you find it.
Then allow me to say that if the KKK democrats are finally coming out of the woodwork and leaving the Democratic party and you want them, you can have em.
We will just replace them with 80% of the latino vote this cycle.
I agree with much of what you say here, but those so-called minorities and lefties together are likely making a majority - if not now, soon.I think you're right when you state that the emerging major political party will be founded on the not currently represented Working-Whites.
Most Working-Whites don't belong to a Union.
I don't think the Unions will have a damn thing to do with the new political party.
Working-Whites are finally fed-up, have found their sense of Pride, and self-defense, and are banding together politically.
The Democratic Party will shrink to become a minor party for Ethnocentric "People-Of-Color" and Kookie Far-Lefties only.
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no one wants a power plant near their home
and hence...no power plants get built
no one like refineries near where they live....it is why we hadnt built a new one in the usa for 10 years at one point
everyone wants their home values to stay high....and wants the stuff built elsewhere
eventually, those elsewhere's need to be near where someone lives
power plants, refineries, and such are huge boons to job markets locally
but they have to get built to be that....
I agree with much of what you say here, but those so-called minorities and lefties together are likely making a majority - if not now, soon.
So I don't see the Dem party going away at all, and if anything it's the GOP that are in danger if they don't moderate or expand their base.
I do think Mr. Trump is expanding the GOP though, if he doesn't cause the establishment types to bolt even though they seemingly have no where to go.
Then allow me to say that if the KKK democrats are finally coming out of the woodwork and leaving the Democratic party and you want them, you can have em.
We will just replace them with 80% of the latino vote this cycle.
"There's A Realignment of the Political Parties Being Attempted!"
What are you talking about?The official U.S. Census demographics support exactly what I am saying.
American FactFinder - Results
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States
Interracial marriages in the U.S. hit all-time high - NY Daily News
I do NOT think the GOP will become that political party.
I KNOW that the Democrats, with their long support for Affirmative Action, cannot become that party.
I think the new party will draw off centrists from both the Dems and the Republicans.
But MOSTLY, from the Dems, because they had been the party for Working People, of ALL Races, for decades.
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Look at what is said by this Leftie, Anti-White Bigot, right here on this thread:
The Working Whites will be forcibly Tossed from the Democratic Party, by the Anti-White, Intolerant, Obama Ethnocentric Crowd.
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The Republicans (now almost entirely Leftie policy rubber stamping Establishment supporting RINO Shills) will continue to be the party for the wealthy elites.
Trump may be running under the banner of the GOP, but his followers won't stay there. I doubt Trump survives his first four years in office. His personal impact will be short.
Trump is just a symptom of the greater shift in American Politics. The movement toward a Race-Neutral, Working Person Party is far larger than Trump.
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What are you talking about?
There's only two parties being discussed in this thread.
Political leaders, including Gov. Brown in California are beginning to say out loud that we can't do without illegal and immigrant labor. Brown sites their wages propping up the states rickety finances, but he also admits, "they work". Others are flat out admitting that welfare is too good a living for many, especially those willing to work side jobs for cash, and it's going to be impossible to drag these people into a job. How do they get there? Will they relocate and leave family behind like Mexicans do?
If there is anything that is common to humans is the ability to adapt. If you gotta shoot and eat pigeons, then you will. If it's cornflakes and hot dogs three meals a day, but you got your beer and your dope, life is livable. People learn to live on less and less even until the get sick and die.
If Trump expands the economy, at what point do we hit the wall and start conscripting labor out of the ghettos?
There are industrial zones in the state, this is mostly woods with neighborhoods here and there, and another suburban/subruralish area close by. Nice place, fair amount of pricey homes. There will 25 long term jobs (I believe 12 of which require high levels of education), and 300 for construction, for varying lengths of time, over 3 years. If they force this in, I should at least be compensated for the predictable loss in property value. Why do I have to go upside down in my mortgage because a really big energy company wants to build a power plant in my back yard? I get that we need the juice, and the plants have to go somewhere. But there are less populated/more industrialized options, and the jobs will go there with it. And if it has to go here, then they should compensate the locals fairly. Gina is sporting a fat 6% approval rating, and Sheldon Whitehouse will likely lose his seat for supporting it. I will probably vote for a jar of Republican Mayonnaise over either of them, and I really really hate mayonnaise.
I understand
Someone always seems to lose no matter where they are built
Maybe there should be some type of law that would compensate people when plants are built close to them
Something similar to eminent domain....I dunno
I just know we need the power, we need the refineries, we need those types of things built
I understand
Someone always seems to lose no matter where they are built
Maybe there should be some type of law that would compensate people when plants are built close to them
Something similar to eminent domain....I dunno
I just know we need the power, we need the refineries, we need those types of things built
Compensation... like Jobs!?
Like all of the non-Facility jobs that come from the Facility Workers spending locally?
My, my, my... how spoiled we've become...
We've still got allot to learn from the Koreans.
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I don't think 25 jobs is going to balance out losing 30-80k in value on my property. I have a job, but I could still lose more in value than I make in a year, before taxes.
Which would be worse?
A] A corporation build a wall board factory employing 200 people and insuring that the majority of your neighbors have jobs.
B] A Leftie government builds a 600 unit, section 8, welfare housing project? Lots of people in the area without jobs, morals, limits, or respect for your property ownership. .... And the increased taxes to pay for it all...
Which would devalue your property, and which would increase your property value.
Maybe you should think it through...
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Both would devalue residential property, people prefer not to live in industrial areas, for a variety of reasons, and yeah, projects. But projects tend to go in low income areas anyway, where property values have already suffered for being "that kind of area", and factories tend to go in industrial parks, where property values have already shifted due to the presence of industry.
Then allow me to say that if the KKK democrats are finally coming out of the woodwork and leaving the Democratic party and you want them, you can have em.
We will just replace them with 80% of the latino vote this cycle.
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