not interested enough. If you had a point to make you make it better than cleaning some things you saw in a movie cleaning some things you saw in a movieTo confirm or debunk my contention, assuming you are interested, that the line and scene in the two movies I named referred to the real reputation of pre-Castro Cuba as a sexual playground for foreigners. So that I am sure that you get my point, I believe that Cleavon Little’s objecting to yet more sex with Madeline Kahn, “I am not from Havana,” tho anachronistic as the film was set in the 1800s, referred to the stereotype of Cuba as that playground, as did the sex show in a Havana theater that Michael and Fredo Corleone were shown seeing in Godfather II.
I may have lost track with the original point here, but I don’t think there was anything more in my comment other than noting how fictional popular culture reflects real popular beliefs or stereotypes. Returning to Blazing Saddles for another example, as they are about to make love for the first time, (before the Havana comment) the Madeline Kahn character wonders if it’s true that Black people like the Cleavon Little character, are “gifted.” “Oh it’s twoo, it’s twoo,” she says after we hear his zipper come down.not interested enough. If you had a point to make you make it better than cleaning some things you saw in a movie cleaning some things you saw in a movie
You're talking about movies I'm not really interested in your interpretation of how they reflect reality.I may have lost track with the original point here, but I don’t think there was anything more in my comment other than noting how fictional popular culture reflects real popular beliefs or stereotypes. Returning to Blazing Saddles for another example, as they are about to make love for the first time, (before the Havana comment) the Madeline Kahn character wonders if it’s true that Black people like the Cleavon Little character, are “gifted.” “Oh it’s twoo, it’s twoo,” she says after we hear his zipper come down.
Of course not. But TV and films, especially ones that are intended to be satirical, often make references to popular culture. But let’s get back to the original point, that pre-Castro Cuba had a bit of the naughty reputation that Tijuana had or still has. The stereotype was that sailors from San Diego went to Tijuana and high rollers from the US to Cuba.You're talking about movies I'm not really interested in your interpretation of how they reflect reality.
Something being in a TV show or a movie or a song doesn't mean it's true.
I'm not interested in your interpretation of films.Of course not. But TV and films, especially ones that are intended to be satirical, often make references to popular culture. But let’s get back to the original point, that pre-Castro Cuba had a bit of the naughty reputation that Tijuana had or still has. The stereotype was that sailors from San Diego went to Tijuana and high rollers from the US to Cuba.
I scrolled back and found that a frequent poster obsessed with Cuba as the only tyranny in the world talked as if Cuban sex tourism began with Castro. I tried to correct the record to show that it preceded Fidel. That’s how we got here — and let’s leave it at that.I'm not interested in your interpretation of films.
I'm not really interested in the history of Cuba either.
You're talking about movies you can just stop what do you need me to leave things alone I'm just repeating that you've talked about movies and that movie's aren't real life.I scrolled back and found that a frequent poster obsessed with Cuba as the only tyranny in the world talked as if Cuban sex tourism began with Castro. I tried to correct the record to show that it preceded Fidel. That’s how we got here — and let’s leave it at that.
Ok, one more try: do you deny that at times movies, though not real life, can and do reflect popular notions — right or wrong — about countries, regions of the world or of the US? That’s my only point. Why do you think the line, “I am not from Havana” appeared in the film?You're talking about movies you can just stop what do you need me to leave things alone I'm just repeating that you've talked about movies and that movie's aren't real life.
You can leave it there or you can continue movies will never be real life.
That's beyond the scope of this discussion. Your reasoning for the things you said is because you saw it on a movie once. I watched the Meg in this giant shark bit into a ship I guess that's real.Ok, one more try: do you deny that at times movies, though not real life, can and do reflect popular notions — right or wrong — about countries, regions of the world or of the US?
So what I watched the movie about the giant sharks that could bite to the ship that's because there's actually sharks like that?That’s my only point. Why do you think the line, “I am not from Havana” appeared in the film?
Ok, let’s make this simple. This is what I believe: 1- Rightly or wrongly, Cuba was considered by many as a sexual playground for tourists. 2- That stereotype was reflected in popular culture, with my examples offered “Blazing Saddles” and “Godfather II.” That’s it. You can choose to believe that Cleavon Little’s line about Havana had nothing to it. I choose to believe differently. This discussion started with someone suggesting that sex tourism started with Castro in Cuba. I tried to counter that, saying it preceded Fidel. You can choose not to believe that.That's beyond the scope of this discussion. Your reasoning for the things you said is because you saw it on a movie once. I watched the Meg in this giant shark bit into a ship I guess that's real.
So what I watched the movie about the giant sharks that could bite to the ship that's because there's actually sharks like that?
You're arguing that movies prove your case.
Do you worry about Godzilla?
Oh... You can believe whatever you want.Ok, let’s make this simple. This is what I believe: 1- Rightly or wrongly, Cuba was considered by many as a sexual playground for tourists. 2- That stereotype was reflected in popular culture, with my examples offered “Blazing Saddles” and “Godfather II.” That’s it. You can choose to believe that Cleavon Little’s line about Havana had nothing to it. I choose to believe differently. This discussion started with someone suggesting that sex tourism started with Castro in Cuba. I tried to counter that, saying it preceded Fidel. You can choose not to believe that.
Perhaps.I can offer an analogy. In New York City in the last century people went uptown to Harlem for music. Thus, songs like “Take the A Train,” “Harlem Shuffle,” and “Midnight in Harlem,” and Sinatra singing “won’t go to Harlem in ermine and pearls” reflected that reality.
Fair enough.Oh... You can believe whatever you want.
Perhaps.
Cuba new hotbed for sex with minors | HeraldNet.com
The Toronto Star/El Nuevo Herald
Saturday, March 30
In a speech to the Cuban National Assembly in 1992 Fidel Castro said: “There are no women forced to sell themselves to a man, to a foreigner, to a tourist. Those who do so do it on their own, voluntarily, and without any need for it. We can say that they are highly educated hookers and quite healthy…there is truly no prostitution healthier that Cuba’s…. “Cuban women become jineteras (prostitutes) because they like sex”. In 1993 Castro remarked that “thanks to socialism Cuban girls must make the cleanest and best-educated prostitutes in the world.” Fidel Castro is the main person responsible for the increased of prostitution, since in order to survive women need to trade in their bodies. It shows the outside world that his revolution has failed.The 50-something Canadian steps inside a downtown bar, his left arm wound tightly around the waist of a young prostitute as he flashes a sly grin. A winking bartender welcomes him like an old friend.
“It’s hard not to be inspired by this,” Michael says, looking over his companion for the night. “And that,” he adds, his eyes pointing to one of the other young women in the bar. “This is the promised land.”
Michael, a retiree from Vancouver Island, spends up to six months a year in Havana, where he says he has discovered easy access to young women willing to ignore age differences – in exchange for as little as $30 for the night.
Foreign tourists, especially Canadians and Spaniards, are traveling to Cuba in surprising numbers for sex – and not just with adult prostitutes. They are finding underage girls and boys, a joint investigation by The Toronto Star and El Nuevo Herald has found.
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Like Batista ****ing knew that Cuba was like the sexual tourism capital of south america.I scrolled back and found that a frequent poster obsessed with Cuba as the only tyranny in the world talked as if Cuban sex tourism began with Castro. I tried to correct the record to show that it preceded Fidel. That’s how we got here — and let’s leave it at that.
I assume he was at least somewhat aware, but of course that wasn't my point.Like Batista ****ing knew that Cuba was like the sexual tourism capital of south america.
The ECPAT, a group of international organizations that works directly with UNICEF to end child prostitution and pornography, says, "In Cuba, the link between tourism and prostitution is perhaps more direct than in any other country that hosts sex tourists."In a speech to the Cuban National Assembly in 1992 Fidel Castro said: “There are no women forced to sell themselves to a man, to a foreigner, to a tourist. Those who do so do it on their own, voluntarily, and without any need for it. We can say that they are highly educated hookers and quite healthy…there is truly no prostitution healthier that Cuba’s…. “Cuban women become jineteras (prostitutes) because they like sex”. In 1993 Castro remarked that “thanks to socialism Cuban girls must make the cleanest and best-educated prostitutes in the world.” Fidel Castro is the main person responsible for the increased of prostitution, since in order to survive women need to trade in their bodies. It shows the outside world that his revolution has failed.
As i have posted before, Cuba was known for sexual tourism long before Castro. Mentioned in our culture, Blazing Saddles and Godfather II.The Castroist regime isn’t only turning a blind eye to human trafficking, it is part of it. The Cuban people are suffering a lot due to the role played by the totalitarian regime in human trafficking and prostitution. Cuba, under the Castroist regime, has become a paradise for sexual tourists who go to the island and take sexual advantage of innocent women and children, who are forced to prostitute themselves in order to survive.
The situation that the Cuban transgender woman live is very sad, there are many more, like her. It is all the regime faults. She needs to do her best to leave as soon as possible. There is no hope for anyone, everyone wants to leave.A young Cuban transgender woman who prostituted herself in Cuba to save money and leave the country confesses all the dangers, abuses, and humiliations she has suffered.
CiberCuba's editorial team
07/08/2024
A young Cuban transgender woman admitted that she prostitutes herself to gather money to leave the country, where she emphasizes there is no life for anyone, but even less for her, who in addition to the problems that everyone faces, suffers constant discrimination.
Vanessa Aballes Cruz recounted in heartbreaking statements to Cubanet the way she was treated by the police after being assaulted and beaten near Coppelia a few days ago.
Aballes Cruz reported that upon arriving at a police station to report a robbery and assault, she was treated discriminatorily.
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Brenda Díaz, which participated in the peaceful demonstration on July 11, 2021, was arrested and sentenced to 14 years of imprisonment, accused of public disorder and contempt. According to the Supreme Court the sentence was “legal, just and rational” , and sent her to an Orwellian 1984 prison After closed to 4 years in prison, she was released January 18, 2025 and reunited with her mother.Prison ‘Devastated Me’ says Brenda Díaz, a Cuban Trans Woman Released from Prison – Translating Cuba
Díaz is aware that her case has made her a symbol. / EFE
EFE (via 14ymedio), Güira de Melena (Artemisa), 26 January 2025 — When she learned that she would be released, Brenda Díaz, a Cuban trans woman sentenced to more than 14 years in prison after participating in the anti-government demonstrations on 11 July 2021 (11J), she could not pick up the phone to call her mother. Díaz, one of the beneficiaries of the release process recently announced by the Cuban government, was in “shock” when the prison management gave her the news. She had spent almost four of her 30 years in a men’s module and suffered all kinds of “physical and verbal abuse,” she claims in an interview with EFE.
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Cuba’s UMAP Camps or the Slavery of Youth – Translating Cuba
The UMAP lasted several years; it is estimated that at least 25,000 young people passed through its camps.
Among those held on the UMAP concentration camps were Cardinal Jaime Ortega and songwriter-singer Pablo Milanés. The UMAP camps were considered an “ exploitation equal to slavery”. Commander Ernesto Casillas, head of the UMAP in Camaguey, said that the number of men in the UMAP ascended to 22,000. The informed Demystifying the UMAP, published by the Delaware Review of Latin American Studies, Vol. 14, No. 2, diciembre 31 de 2013, said that 500 men ended in psychiatric rooms, 70 died for torture and 180 committed suicides.14ymedio, Pedro Corzo, Miami, 31 March 2025 — Cuban filmmaker Lilo Vilaplana and the tireless fighter against Castro’s totalitarianism, Reinold Rodríguez, have committed to bringing to the big screen one of the most painful tragedies suffered by Cuban youth: the camps known as Military Production Assistance Units (UMAP).
They did an excellent job with the film Plantadas*, without overlooking Plantados*, so we are confident that this will be a testimony of immense value like the previous ones.
The sadism of the Castro regime’s highest hierarchy—Fidel Castro, Raúl Castro, and Ernesto Che Guevara, with the complicity of the entire upper echelons of government—arranged a repressive scheme that sought to severely harm young people who expressed their opposition to the Revolution in various ways. First, they were militarized; second, they were forced to perform work contrary to their abilities; and third, they foisted upon the conscripts a web of lies and manipulations aimed at socially crippling them.
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