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There is absolute proof that the DELUGE actually happened

What Does the Bible Say About Reward?

Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.
 
Or, much more likely is that there was not a worldwide flood, Noah was a story that got exaggerated with time, and too many people can't understand that. That is a much more logical, reasonable, and likely scenario.
 
Did you watch the video from Gutsick Gibbon? She absolutely shows in several ways why your "kinds" argument is purely made up bs. That doesn't mean that the word kind or how you use it is made up, but rather that the concept of taking kinds instead of species cleans up that problem when it comes to the story of Noah's Ark. It doesn't. There are far too many things that don't fit. I get that YECs, and especially the leaders of these movements don't want to accept these things. But the science is there, as is the logic.

For example, chimpanzees would absolutely have to be grouped with mankind itself, as man is closer to chimpanzees and chimpanzees to us than we are to any other species and than they are to any other species.
 
I don't think that ancient man was less talented than man is today. In fact they likely had far more street smarts, as they could survive in a world without many thing
As I was saying...
 
I don't think that ancient man was less talented than man is today. In fact they likely had far more street smarts, as they could survive in a world without many thing

As I was saying...
There is no arguing that earlier men were more naive, less informed about the world, so somewhat at least more gullible.

But people today even will exaggerate stories, even telling things that are completely nonsensical as if they really happened because they believe they did, regardless of how illogical it is. In this case though, a massive but still local flood would absolutely appear to be "global" to someone who has absolutely no clue how big the earth really is.
 

What Does the Bible Say About Reward?

Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.

well, so far he IS preaching but when is he making the Leap over to faith ?

blessings Logic, the first July 9 warning bell went off, time to take this seriously friend.

start with Noah's Ark and the Flood, plenty of documentation and evidence, so no excuse there. heaven is waiting, pay attention.


for those of you into modern day Flooding, you can start here: Rainmaker CEO Confirms Cloud Seeding Over Central Texas Less Than 48 Hours Before Flood! this guy just primes the pump a little; you will have to dig deeper as usual. same with Noah's ark, don't accept the nay sayers word what they think happened. the old Black Book stands waiting for you.

blessings, keep digging

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Matthew 24:1-43

1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers (VARIOUS) places.

8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
 
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 ;Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
 
 
Just more religious nonsense, not evidence.
 
Geology Finally Makes Sense -- Thanks to Noah's Flood:
This is a part of cyclic flooding and in no way is evidence of your alleged world flood. It never even covered all of the US at one time. It is from glaciers melting in Canada (mainly). It happens every 5k-7k years and is normally confined to the Rocky Mountain area but can be much larger or simply different places. The Mississippi also floods too, so you don't even have evidence of it being at one time, but rather many, many, many different major floods.

Hell the Mississippi flooded in 1993.

No one "knows" what happened during a flood that didn't happen. This guy is simply trying to use bits and pieces of evidence to fit into his religious beliefs. It isn't the same thing. Not at the surface is why he's wrong, and any honest, non-YEC would be able to show why his attempts here are nonsense.

The marine animals are in layers. He's proving his own claims are BS because he can't understand the different layers that are set down over millions, 10s of millions of years. You will see complete ecosystems buried together when it happens during various major events to kill off some of these dinosaurs. It's simply a single, major local event, not a worldwide flood. I've been to the WY Fossil Butte. They will show how it happened over and over again, so not in a single worldwide flood.

 
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This Folding Rock Cannot Exist Without Noah's Flood:
 
How Did the Earth AFTER Noah's Flood? The reality is that the presently the Colorado River isn't carving away but silting up deposits ---- watch this presentation:
The proof of the FLOOD and the motives for disproving that the FLOOD actually happened, are becoming more and more apparent ---- as atheists do their level best to discredit honest researchers. But their demeanor often exposes how they really feel and the lengths they go to prove their case. And the internet is exposing more and more individuals to both interpretations without the help of public education.
 
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This Folding Rock Cannot Exist Without Noah's Flood:
It absolutely can exist without that flood. You are allowing YECs to lie to you, to convince you it can't exist, hence why all your sources are from them, not any from secular scientist who show how.

Tectonic processes explain the folding rocks, not a global flood.



The guy in your video works for Answers in Genesis and/or for other YEC sites, companies, people who make money off of actually selling YEC as an idea.
 
Your question makes no sense.

The reality is that the YEC worker in your videos is simply lying about what has to have caused those things. That isn't a "presentation". It's a propaganda video.

 
I'm sorry but many individual earn money as professors, write books, and talk on television programs to promote themselves and their Uniformitarian studies. Can you honestly say that individuals who devote their lives to research are not entitled to make a living from their investigations. This seems very unfair and one-sided of you ---- if not unethical. Pay us but don't pay them isn't how things should work. Was COSMOS a propaganda television show that Carl Sagan put together to get people to believe what he was peddling?
 
They aren't entitled to not being called out on what they are claiming, proven wrong. I've provided evidence of why he is wrong, from several different sources.

He is not doing real scientific research when he starts from the premise that he is only working to prove the Biblical account correct and will dismiss anything that is evidence against it. Those working for those organizations have to sign pledges to reject any info that contradicts the Bible, including the biblical flood. That means that they are not holding any scientific integrity, because they can't. You can't be a real scientists and automatically pledge to reject any scientific evidence that goes against your beliefs.

 
They aren't entitled to not being called out on what they are claiming, proven wrong. I've provided evidence of why he is wrong, from several different sources.


very good. the Bible should come first as Evidence and any 'science' gathered a distant second if considered at all

Science changes and God does not, the real choice is clear: the Bible

and has been for thousands of years since God inspired the Bible friends. throw yur evolution books back or lose them paying the fine if you must.

That means that they are not holding any scientific integrity, because they can't.

already answered, science must pass the Bible test first.............always.

God said it and i believe it.

You can't be a real scientists and automatically pledge to reject any scientific evidence that goes against your beliefs.

Real scientists check the Bible first; counter to the Bible, then scrap yur research.


 
Yes, yes, yes.... And I've provided very forthright contrary opinions that make an explanation without trying to belittle, insult, or make fun of those that wish to believe anything to the contrary. Do evolutionists and Uniformitarian researcher disregard the Bible under the pretext that it is unreliable, unbelievable, and just myth? I see nothing at all wrong with using the Bible to formulate an investigation, anymore than someone applying Darwin's, ON THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES BY MEANS OF NATURAL SELECTION. To say otherwise sounds rather disingenuous of you.
 
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The bible isnt evidence at all.

It is iron age fables and fiction.

better re-think before Judgement day.


try reading and ask God for guidance and a new heart. then enjoy heaven in this life and the next friend.

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better re-think before Judgement day.
Judgement day is fiction.
try reading and ask God for guidance and a new heart. then enjoy heaven in this life and the next friend.

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Try reading actual science and learn critical thinking and logic.

Dont waste your life thinking ridiculous fiction is real.

Its so sad.

I genuinely feel sorry for you.
 
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