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The world's anti-Trump sentiment. How will that be expressed in the U.S.? (1 Viewer)

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The world has been standing up to Trump! First Canada, with a landslide victory by a candidate who would have experienced a landslide defeat, had it not been for his opponent's ties to Trump. Later Australia where the anti-Trump candidate had a field day.

People in the world will NOT give in to Trump's threats. Looks like what a candidate needs to do to win anywhere else in the world, is to paint their opponent as aligned to Trump. People are willing to endure financial troubles so long as their leaders oppose Trump.

It's idiotic to have believed it would be otherwise. I mean.... check history! Europe was DEVASTATED by a war because they demanded their leaders stand up to a dictator. Did you really think this time it would be different?

But I don't think this sentiment is any different in the U.S. Eventually I believe it will catch on. If it isn't already. Tesla's debacle is one example of this. I think it will go much further. Businesses, universities, news media.... any that will NOT stand up to Trump, I believe, will soon be facing negative consequences from consumers. And, eventually, so will politicians.

I think it would be a MIRACLE if Trump finishes THIS year without him being a lame-duck President.
 
The world has been standing up to Trump! First Canada, with a landslide victory by a candidate who would have experienced a landslide defeat, had it not been for his opponent's ties to Trump. Later Australia where the anti-Trump candidate had a field day.

People in the world will NOT give in to Trump's threats. Looks like what a candidate needs to do to win anywhere else in the world, is to paint their opponent as aligned to Trump. People are willing to endure financial troubles so long as their leaders oppose Trump.

It's idiotic to have believed it would be otherwise. I mean.... check history! Europe was DEVASTATED by a war because they demanded their leaders stand up to a dictator. Did you really think this time it would be different?

But I don't think this sentiment is any different in the U.S. Eventually I believe it will catch on. If it isn't already. Tesla's debacle is one example of this. I think it will go much further. Businesses, universities, news media.... any that will NOT stand up to Trump, I believe, will soon be facing negative consequences from consumers. And, eventually, so will politicians.

I think it would be a MIRACLE if Trump finishes THIS year without him being a lame-duck President.

Well, I do not imagine it will amount to much though I hope it does. My wife and I generally do not go to Target anymore because of their recent anti-DEI policies to get into Republican's good graces. My wife and I still go to Costco because they refused to capitulate and maintained their anti-racist DEI policies.

As much as it typically makes me scoff, sneer and roll my eyes, I will take rainbow capitalism over bigoted capitalism any day of the week.
 
As the rest of the world decides to tell Trump where he can stick his tarrifs and trade with everyone else I think more Americans will see how counterproductive his policies are.

You'll never convince the Mycrofts of this world as he's a lost soul.
 
Well, I do not imagine it will amount to much though I hope it does. My wife and I generally do not go to Target anymore because of their recent anti-DEI policies to get into Republican's good graces. My wife and I still go to Costco because they refused to capitulate and maintained their anti-racist DEI policies.

As much as it typically makes me scoff, sneer and roll my eyes, I will take rainbow capitalism over bigoted capitalism any day of the week.
What exactly were those?
 
Eventually I believe it will catch on. If it isn't already. Tesla's debacle is one example of this. I think it will go much further. Businesses, universities, news media.... any that will NOT stand up to Trump, I believe, will soon be facing negative consequences from consumers. And, eventually, so will politicians.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Trump was already a well known candidate when 70% of voters chose they are fine with him being President.

By his own historical standards, his favorability rating in US is quite high. It's as high as during close 2020 election, i.e. from BEFORE he tried to commit a coup and his big lie!

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I'll believe it when I see it.

Trump was already a well known candidate when 70% of voters chose they are fine with him being President.

By his own historical standards, his favorability rating in US is quite high.
Give us another few months of Trumps tariff war and I expect we will see that favourability begin to drop further yet. The vast pre-tariff stock piling has mostly protected the American consumer so far. Trump may convince the cult with his latest claim that this economic pain is all part of his master plan yada yada yada, but once people start falling behind on their basic living costs, and enough people are out of work, they won't be so interested in getting constantly told that they just need to wait longer, and longer, and longer, and longer...... for the new economic miracle that Trump is promising.
 
The world has been standing up to Trump! First Canada, with a landslide victory by a candidate who would have experienced a landslide defeat, had it not been for his opponent's ties to Trump. Later Australia where the anti-Trump candidate had a field day.

People in the world will NOT give in to Trump's threats. Looks like what a candidate needs to do to win anywhere else in the world, is to paint their opponent as aligned to Trump. People are willing to endure financial troubles so long as their leaders oppose Trump.

It's idiotic to have believed it would be otherwise. I mean.... check history! Europe was DEVASTATED by a war because they demanded their leaders stand up to a dictator. Did you really think this time it would be different?

But I don't think this sentiment is any different in the U.S. Eventually I believe it will catch on. If it isn't already. Tesla's debacle is one example of this. I think it will go much further. Businesses, universities, news media.... any that will NOT stand up to Trump, I believe, will soon be facing negative consequences from consumers. And, eventually, so will politicians.

I think it would be a MIRACLE if Trump finishes THIS year without him being a lame-duck President.


Your first sentence is dead wrong.

Pierre Poilievre has no ties to Donald Trump. Period!

He lost because he was a weak candidate with personality issues. He lost his own seat in Parliament. If anything, the appearance that he had no balls was deliberately made into an issue by the most effective slime throwing poles: Liberal Party of Canada.

Mark Carney came back from a 30 point deficit and won on a promise of economic stability AND standing up to Trump. The people believed him more than little Poly. It turns out Conservatism was never on the ballot, but Justin Trudeau's record was.

Carney's victory is seen by the experts as Canada returning to its roots in social justice within a loosely defined federation.

I have no idea where the **** you come up with these insane ideas
 
Give us another few months of Trumps tariff war and I expect we will see that favourability begin to drop further yet. The vast pre-tariff stock piling has mostly protected the American consumer so far. Trump may convince the cult with his latest claim that this economic pain is all part of his master plan yada yada yada, but once people start falling behind on their basic living costs, and enough people are out of work, they won't be so interested in getting constantly told that they just need to wait longer, and longer, and longer, and longer...... for the new economic miracle that Trump is promising.

I am afraid he'll make some deals, including China. Get us to just "bad" economy instead of "terrible". Stocks and everyone will celebrate. And in the mean time, he dismantles election system and turns us into Hungary / Russia style autocracy.
 

The world's anti-Trump sentiment. How will that be expressed in the U.S.?​

Legally, I hope. If not, people will be going to jail.

That "Summer of Love" nonsense won't be happening again.
 
Well, I do not imagine it will amount to much though I hope it does. My wife and I generally do not go to Target anymore because of their recent anti-DEI policies to get into Republican's good graces. My wife and I still go to Costco because they refused to capitulate and maintained their anti-racist DEI policies.

As much as it typically makes me scoff, sneer and roll my eyes, I will take rainbow capitalism over bigoted capitalism any day of the week.
I think that what you do will be more and more the norm in this country. Until Target will HAVE to change their policies.

But so will everybody else: news media, lawmakers, universities.... If they hope to survive this, they will need to stand with THE PEOPLE and turn their backs on Trump.
 

The world's anti-Trump sentiment. How will that be expressed in the U.S.?​

Legally, I hope. If not, people will be going to jail.

That "Summer of Love" nonsense won't be happening again.
I hope so too. But there is no guarantee. People will do what they have to do to defend their rights!

Violence should be the very last resort. I hope it doesn't come to that.
 
Your first sentence is dead wrong.

Pierre Poilievre has no ties to Donald Trump. Period!
It makes no difference. Any candidate in the world who is even PERCEIVED as having ties to Trump will face the voter's ire. Anybody with any populist rhetoric or... anything that is even REMOTELY similar to Trump is out.

Candidates will need to make it abundantly clear that they will stand up to Trump, or they're done! That's my point!
 
It makes no difference. Any candidate in the world who is even PERCEIVED as having ties to Trump will face the voter's ire. Anybody with any populist rhetoric or... anything that is even REMOTELY similar to Trump is out.

Candidates will need to make it abundantly clear that they will stand up to Trump, or they're done! That's my point!


That was my point.

All SIX party leaders attacked everything Trump.
 
I am afraid he'll make some deals, including China. Get us to just "bad" economy instead of "terrible". Stocks and everyone will celebrate. And in the mean time, he dismantles election system and turns us into Hungary / Russia style autocracy.
I expect that is what he will try, but there is plenty that is already lost that isn't coming back in a hurry I expect. My expectation is that Trump won't be able to even achieve the status quo that he took office with during the rest of 2025. Most likely the 2Q economic reporting from both the govt, and a lot of companies, is going to be terrible compared to what it could have been without Trumps insanity. Trump may get some trade deals, but I don't think the reality of them will be anything like what maga expect, and nothing at all like Trump will try to make them sound like. So maybe the cult and the markets think things are looking ok for a while, but eventually the reality numbers get exposed.
 
As the rest of the world decides to tell Trump where he can stick his tarrifs and trade with everyone else I think more Americans will see how counterproductive his policies are.

You'll never convince the Mycrofts of this world as he's a lost soul.
A lost troll or soul?
 
It makes no difference. Any candidate in the world who is even PERCEIVED as having ties to Trump will face the voter's ire. Anybody with any populist rhetoric or... anything that is even REMOTELY similar to Trump is out.

Candidates will need to make it abundantly clear that they will stand up to Trump, or they're done! That's my point!


that isn't even close to what you said initially.

You do not have Canadian politics correct, not even close.
 
that isn't even close to what you said initially.

You do not have Canadian politics correct, not even close.

I was under the impression that he was trying to model himself off of Donald Trump and signaled his intention to build stronger relations with a Trump-run United States.
 
that isn't even close to what you said initially.

You do not have Canadian politics correct, not even close.
It's exactly what I said initially!

You interpreted "ties to Trump" to mean that he met with Trump... or something like that. It means that his politics are tied to TRUMP's politics.

Maybe YOU don't have American politics correct.
 
It's exactly what I said initially!

You interpreted "ties to Trump" to mean that he met with Trump... or something like that. It means that his politics are tied to TRUMP's politics.

Maybe YOU don't have American politics correct.

I guess not..

35 years as a professional journalist I'm probably wrong about everything. Depending on who is defining "wrong".

In America that's a ****ing crap shoot.

But then you're the ones with the bozo clown as president
 
I guess not..

35 years as a professional journalist I'm probably wrong about everything. Depending on who is defining "wrong".
I don't know you. So, as far as I know, you might be better writing than you are reading.

Definitely not great at spotting the GIST of a post.
 
"President Donald Trump, asked during an interview on NBC News’s “Meet the Press” whether he believes that he needs to uphold the Constitution during his presidency, responded, “I don’t know.”
Is Trump really that dumb, or is he a cruel dictator-in-waiting pleading complete ignorance of American principles? Does he really know less than an army private?

That is what he said.

Why don't Republican leaders in control of Congress try to control this maniac?

Why are Republicans totally silent?

CNN reports, "Americans are learning what it’s like to live with a president who sees no constraints on his actions and who apparently fears paying no price for them.

"In a blitz of recent policy moves, legal challenges, comments and interviews, Donald Trump is showing that he’s shedding the last limitations of custom and the public’s long understanding of how a president should behave.

"In an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press with Kristen Welker” that aired in full Sunday, Trump said for instance, “I don’t know” when asked whether he needs to uphold the Constitution, three months after swearing an oath to do so.

"But Trump’s behavior also points to darker potential outcomes of a second presidency fueled by his belief that he has near-uncheckable power after a second electoral triumph that followed his defiance of personal legal woes and two assassination attempts.

"The administration is repeatedly defying federal courts — in one case even the Supreme Court, over the fate of an undocumented migrant whose return it ordered the administration to “facilitate.” Trump is meanwhile wielding vast executive power against institutions that he wants to silence, including law firms and universities.

"And his sense of personal omnipotence (caused by Republican compliance) sometimes seems to be leading the country toward authoritarianism. He said on NBC he wasn’t “looking at” running for a third term in 2028 — as if it’s a personal choice whether he obeys the Constitution on which US democracy depends.
 

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