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[W:718] The west must hold its nerve on Ukraine

This is what Wilkerson had to say about the shark and the elephant in 2021:

https://theanalysis.news/the-threat-of-war-nuclear-with-china-col-lawrence-wilkerson/

"My Marines characterize it this way, ‘The shark and the elephant’.

"The elephant was China.

"The shark was the United States.

"The shark ate China’s Air Force and its navy, and the elephant ate everything else about the United States that wasn’t peripheral to that struggle.

"So, you had your navies and air forces devastated and you’re sitting there looking at one another, the shark can’t come ashore, and the elephant can’t go to sea, as it were and so what do you do?

"Well, you say, as one game ended up, let’s use some cruise missiles with nuclear warheads, at that time, tomahawk d’s, let’s shoot some Chinese cities with nuclear weapons.

"Stop the game.

"So, what you wind up doing is coming to the only inevitable end to that game is an exchange of nuclear weapons.

"...I think at one time, the Chinese made a decision under Mao Zedong, a smart decision, that they would make no more nuclear weapons that were necessary for a detour because Mao said, they were useless weapons.

"All he wanted was a few to keep people from attacking him with nuclear weapons and he made that famous statement about ‘you shoot yours at me, you’ll kill a hundred million people. I’ll shoot mine at you and kill all your people virtually, and I’ll still have 600 million left."
Yeah, I caught that in the video.

Wilkerson makes a metaphor of creatures of the wild because the Chinese live by citing animals as their examples of human behavior.

One time the US 4-star admiral in command of all US forces land sea air in the Indo-Pacific emerged from a long and winding meeting in Beijing with CCP Party military brass and said this to a reporter's question of what if anything was accomplished: "Well, I can't say, because they talked a lot about animals." He zinged 'em a good one on that because, and yes it's true, Chinese are fixed and locked in the ancient world and many of its primitive aspects -- and we know it. They still don't recognize the difference between higher animals and lower animals, which is scary.

Chinese logic is simplistic as one of my favorite faux pas goes, which is to "kill the chicken to scare the monkey (away)." Well Gen. Patton killed the chickens and the monkeys plus a lotta krauts to beat 'em all.

And as I'd posted after viewing the dated video, CCP Boyz in Beijing just completed a review of their No First Strike policy and decided to keep it. If the CCP attempts to invade Taiwan it will fail. Indeed, Beijing doesn't have possession of Taiwan so it would not be an existential disaster for the CCP Boyz and their Party. Would the ruling clique led by Xi get ejected, yes. But it's not necessarily the end of CCP rule in their wholly owned subsidiary the PRC that the Party created, owns, operates and profits from immensely. Mainly, there's no alternative, to include a PLA dictatorship given the PLA and its components would be devastated due to their whupping by Taiwan et al.

Taiwan btw has been mass producing its own offensive missiles since 2018 including two that can reach Shanghai and Beijing. PLA et al would bombard Taiwan before launching of course which means Taipei would devastate the China mainland hitting military bases on the coast and inland targets of 4C, blasting dams and transportation junctions and so on. Taiwan is making clear it's to be taken seriously as this is a complete and radical change of its War Plan of Defense, ie, massing an effective offense against the mainland. Make it prohibitively costly to Beijing right at home. Wreck any invasion force the instant it pulls up anchor -- to include troop transport ships of course -- and fires up its warplanes etc.
 
How likely is it the Revolution of Dignity would have ever taken place without billion$ in US meddling? Perhaps you honestly believe the US was furthering democracy in a selfless attempt at promoting human rights in Ukraine.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

US elites have been pursuing (on a bipartisan basis) regime change in Russia since the end of WWI, and they are perfectly willing to fight to the last drop of Ukrainian blood (again) to accomplish their goal.
Putin's Russia has turned the world against it for the lifetime of Russia's grandchildren.
 
Nuland's phone call selecting Yatsenyuk took place weeks before a violent street mob drove Yanukovych from office.

https://www.rferl.org/a/nuland-russia-eu-ukraine-reaction/25256828.html

"First there was her dismissal of Klitschko as a component of any future Ukrainian government. 'I don't think Klits should go into the government,' she said, using a nickname for the boxing champion and UDAR party leader. 'I don't think it's necessary; I don't think it's a good idea.'

"The conversation, which appeared to take place on January 25, came as Klitschko was mulling an offer by President Viktor Yanukovych to enter government as deputy prime minister."
This is ancient history.

You need new stuff from Putin.

But he's rather busy now isn't he.
 
How likely is it the Revolution of Dignity would have ever taken place without billion$ in US meddling? Perhaps you honestly believe the US was furthering democracy in a selfless attempt at promoting human rights in Ukraine.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

US elites have been pursuing (on a bipartisan basis) regime change in Russia since the end of WWI, and they are perfectly willing to fight to the last drop of Ukrainian blood (again) to accomplish their goal.

Nuland had no power to "chose" anyone.

That is Putinist claptrap.

Libya is a failed state today with public slave markets, and NATO made it all possible.

Goalposts moved out of the stadium, out of the city and are somewhere in the countryside.

NATO didn't do that. The Libyans did.
 
How likely is it the Revolution of Dignity would have ever taken place without billion$ in US meddling?

Since its independence from the Russian yoke in 1991, Ukraine received only a fraction of the US funding that Israel had received by 2014.

About the same funding as many of the Balkan states.

Nothing to see here. Moving on....
 
Hey Grigory, explain this......


Putin is going to place nuclear capable Iskander missiles in Belarus.

Perhaps NATO should invade to eliminate this new nuclear threat to their safety?
 
Plus it was understood by all that cabinet positions were of a temporary nature until the snap election in May. Poroshenko kept Yatsenyuk on in a coalition.

Yatsenyuk resigned his PM position in early April 2016 and was replaced by Volodymyr Groysman, the Speaker of Parliament.
How do you rate the integrity of Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk?
 
Putin's Russia has turned the world against it for the lifetime of Russia's grandchildren.
Depends on how you define "world."
Do you mean White world?


https://mronline.org/2022/06/25/onl...all-showing-neutrality-on-ukraine-and-russia/

"Only 4 of 55 African leaders attend Zelensky call, showing neutrality on Ukraine and Russia"​

"In other words, 93% of the leaders of the African continent did not attend the video conference with Zelensky.

"This was a clear sign of Africa’s overwhelming neutrality in the proxy war between the West and Russia."

Imho, we had about 30 years as the world's only superpower, but those days are long gone.
 
Have already explained as to where this “option” leads to . Today we have to stay without Ukraine , which is effectively is part of ussr, which “collapsed” because of the wise Western tactics , tomorrow we should stay within new reduced borders , without “liberated” caucas , the day after tomorrow your Western bosses will leave us only Moscow and Saint Petersburg , because all the other parts of the country demanded “freedom”.
so this option is not an option, as long as the Western powers entitled themselves to determine what are these borders. You are the only ones who believe in this crazy bullshit hypocrisy . Half of the worlds population is already against you.
Ukraine is not part of the USSR nor Russia.
 
OK, ok why not , if these borders go forth to the Dnieper river. Anyway these borders should include DPR, LPR, Herson Republic, Crimea. And btw, Russians have no paranoia, they got very tragic historical experience with thier Western "neighbours" and their military ambitions. What is paranoia, its the Western paranoia about the fictional Russian "invasion", which is actually peace keeping mission.
😂
 
This is ancient history.

You need new stuff from Putin.

But he's rather busy now isn't he.
Not as busy as Zelensky, and 2014 isn't ancient history for many Ukrainians:
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https://uacrisis.org/en/60405-casualties-war-eastern-ukraine
 
Depends on how you define "world."
Do you mean White world?


https://mronline.org/2022/06/25/onl...all-showing-neutrality-on-ukraine-and-russia/

"Only 4 of 55 African leaders attend Zelensky call, showing neutrality on Ukraine and Russia"​

"In other words, 93% of the leaders of the African continent did not attend the video conference with Zelensky.

"This was a clear sign of Africa’s overwhelming neutrality in the proxy war between the West and Russia."

Imho, we had about 30 years as the world's only superpower, but those days are long gone.

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Nuland had no power to "chose" anyone.

That is Putinist claptrap.



Goalposts moved out of the stadium, out of the city and are somewhere in the countryside.

NATO didn't do that. The Libyans did.
Nuland and Biden controlled how much money Ukrainian Nazi's received
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"Biden shaking the hand of Oleh Tyahnybok, leader of the Ukrainian fascist Svoboda party, formerly the 'Social-National Party of Ukraine,' which celebrates Nazi collaborators and Nazi symbols."

 
How do you rate the integrity of Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk?

Poroshenko and Yatsenyak have nothing to do with Zelenskyy.

Why did you skip over Post #406? The topic is too inconvenient for you?

Hey Grigory, explain this......


Putin is going to place nuclear capable Iskander missiles in Belarus.

Perhaps NATO should invade to eliminate this new nuclear threat to their safety?
 
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"Biden shaking the hand of Oleh Tyahnybok, leader of the Ukrainian fascist Svoboda party, formerly the 'Social-National Party of Ukraine,' which celebrates Nazi collaborators and Nazi symbols."

As US Vice President visting an ally, it was Biden's job to hobnob with Ukrainian MP's. Tyahnybok was gone from parliament after the 2016 elections.

He tried again in 2019 but his National Corps coalition only received 2.15% of the national vote, not reaching the minimum 5% vote threshold.

I'll debunk your Kremlin propaganda at every turn.
 
Since its independence from the Russian yoke in 1991, Ukraine received only a fraction of the US funding that Israel had received by 2014.

About the same funding as many of the Balkan states.

Nothing to see here. Moving on....
Anyone without blinders sees this:
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https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/evolving-trajectory-of-us-aid-to-ukraine/

All of this money (and the much larger amount going to Israel) could have been used in the US for domestic purposes; it wasn't because there are currently greater profits from destroying infrastructure than there are for building it.
 
" It is the right of the former USSR heads to recognize the independence " => they had no such authority, no such rights, and you know this. May be Boris Johnson has the right to give freedom to Scortland? Ridiculous. Just stop pushing this bullshit . You claim that these drunken thugs, these "heads" had these rights just because you want them to have it, just because it is comfortable for you and your corrupted governments. Soviet Union or any representatives of it have NO Right to decide territorial issues. All their "decisions" are void. Only the common will of ENTIRE population can be taken into account.
But once again only you believe in this nonsense and propaganda you are pushing.
The USSR collapsed giving Ukraine the right to establish independence. It doesnt matter if Russians ahistorically for a century refused to recognize ukrainians.
 
Anyone without blinders sees this:
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https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/evolving-trajectory-of-us-aid-to-ukraine/

All of this money (and the much larger amount going to Israel) could have been used in the US for domestic purposes; it wasn't because there are currently greater profits from destroying infrastructure than there are for building it.

Once again, the US Congress appropriates all US foreign funding, which in the case of Ukraine was obviously bi-partisan.

You best find another hill to die on. And you continue to ignore Post #406.
 
The USSR collapsed giving Ukraine the right to establish independence. It doesnt matter if Russians ahistorically for a century refused to recognize ukrainians.

The presidents of the new Ukraine, the new Russian Federation, and the new Belarus all agreed to split up as independent nations via the Belovezha Accords signed on 8 December 1991.

The United Nations recognized these three as new and independent nations in January 1992.
 
Hey Grigory, explain this......


Putin is going to place nuclear capable Iskander missiles in Belarus.

Perhaps NATO should invade to eliminate this new nuclear threat to their safety?
Why do you continually sound like someone instigating for WWIII?
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Perhaps all nations currently involved in this proxy war without a common border with Ukraine or Russia should go back where they came from?
 
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