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The wealthy went for ... Harris?

NatMorton said:
Am reviewing CNN's exit polling data, and this one stood out as counterintuitive (or rather, counter narrative). The majority of those making more than $100k supported Harris. Those making less than $100k supported Trump:

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Source: https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/national-results/general/president/0
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Well, if you want a good conspiracy theory, Harris and Trump was a proxy war between two different groups of rich people who might want similar things. What' say you?
 
Why is that counter intuitive?

More educated people voted for the sane choice. More educated people tend to make more money.

Trump has always been a lot more popular with the less educated (which is why he "loves" them, as he said)
 
Slavister said:
Why is that counter intuitive?

More educated people voted for the sane choice. More educated people tend to make more money.

Trump has always been a lot more popular with the less educated (which is why he "loves" them, as he said)
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I think it's fair to say that the left would call Republicans the "party of the rich."
 
NatMorton said:
I think it's fair to say that the left would call Republicans the "party of the rich."
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"Rich" not as in 100k. "Rich" as in more billionaires sponsoring Rs than Ds. (I am not saying it's true - just that this is what the stereotype is.)
 
NatMorton said:
I think it's fair to say that the left would call Republicans the "party of the rich."
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That is usually true unless and until the other party's policies favor them. I also think a lot of it (i.e., not publishing endorsements of Harris, etc.) may not have been so much about censorship but more about not wanting to make Trump's enemies list. Speaking of enemies lists -- the Kremlin just said it wasn't going to congratulate Trump. Ukraine could be saved by that act alone :P (I jest, but also kinda maybe not)
 
... and here's another nugget that probably explains the stat in the OP (and also further cements the economy as the key issue vs Trump being "a threat to democracy.")

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A full 75% of voters felt either moderate or severe hardship from inflation, and it's those with the lower incomes who feel inflation the hardest.
 
Slavister said:
"Rich" not as in 100k. "Rich" as in more billionaires sponsoring Rs than Ds. (I am not saying it's true - just that this is what the stereotype is.)
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... and as I kept reading, I think we can go back to "Rich."

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... though it's also true the very poor went for Harris.
 
PoliSciPulse said:
Speaking of enemies lists -- the Kremlin just said it wasn't going to congratulate Trump. Ukraine could be saved by that act alone :p (I jest, but also kinda maybe not)
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You really think Putin did not call Trump? Common... They've been interacting all these years including what Putin told Trump not to make it public that Trump is sending him COVID machines to protect Trump...
 
NatMorton said:
... and as I kept reading, I think we can go back to "Rich."

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... though it's also true the very poor went for Harris.
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Yes, the poorEST have been traditionally Ds (Harris probably UNDERperformed with them vs prior elections - just my guess). The more educated also went with Ds. Again, I am not seeing anything strange here.
 
Slavister said:
You really think Putin did not call Trump? Common... They've been interacting all these years including what Putin told Trump not to make it public that Trump is sending him COVID machines to protect Trump...
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Well, which is more embarrassing, to be called in private or tell the public that you won't be calling him?
 
NatMorton said:
Am reviewing CNN's exit polling data, and this one stood out as counterintuitive (or rather, counter narrative). The majority of those making more than $100k supported Harris. Those making less than $100k supported Trump:

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Source: https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/national-results/general/president/0
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This is indicative of the shift in both of the parties' demographics in recent years. Democrats have been growing in support among liberal elites who live in urban centers and their suburbs while the GOP has been growing in support from the working class.
 
"It's the economy, stupid"

Yeah it's weird that the big money promising to "trickle down" is now for the Democrat.

But very interesting that they don't want more tax cuts, particularly corporate tax cuts.

They fear disruption. They don't know what deportations and tariffs will do, but they're guessing it's bad for them.
 
Trump pulled the non-college educated working class and lower middle class demographic. Predominantly the white portion of that demographic.

That has always been his base.

Nothing surprising about it 🤷‍♀️
 
NatMorton said:
... and as I kept reading, I think we can go back to "Rich."

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... though it's also true the very poor went for Harris.
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Well, then (Bernie?) Sanders was right, the Democrats never appealed to the Middle Class. (All I know is someone with the last name of Sanders said that -- could have been Sarah Huckabee for all I know :P )
 
PoliSciPulse said:
Well, which is more embarrassing, to be called in private or tell the public that you won't be calling him?
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Putin is Trump's idol. He is way more powerful than Trump and way richer than Trump (and I am guessing he has something on Trump). They clearly have a special relationship. So, don't worry. Trump will always do Putin's bidding. What they decide to tell the "masses" is not going to make Trump upset - if anything, he'll enjoy their other little secret.
 
Slavister said:
Yes, the poorEST have been traditionally Ds (Harris probably UNDERperformed with them vs prior elections - just my guess). The more educated also went with Ds. Again, I am not seeing anything strange here.
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I'll try to keep that in mind the next time I read a rant on this site, or a MSM story, about the GOP being the party of the wealthy.
 
Exit polls are generally better than pre-polls.

However, exit polls don't get a good sample of rich people. They pre-poll or postal vote.

Still, as with any poll, we plebeians have to go with what we've got.
 
NatMorton said:
Why do you believe this to be true?
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Because that is one certainty about Trump's future policy. Congress will offer tax cuts (it's what Republicans do) and he will sign them.

Why do you believe otherwise?
 
The Stars Tremble said:
Because that is one certainty about Trump's future policy. Congress will offer tax cuts (it's what Republicans do) and he will sign them.

Why do you believe otherwise?
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Maybe I misunderstood you. When you said "they don't want more tax cuts, particularly corporate tax cuts" I assumed "they" were the majority of voters. Whom did you mean?
 
NatMorton said:
I'll try to keep that in mind the next time I read a rant on this site, or a MSM story, about the GOP being the party of the wealthy.
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Again, wealthy often does not mean 100k or even 200k in those contexts. Think billionaires. Or at least top 1% (~$800k+ income).
 
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