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The very definition of "insanity" in America

Do they live in liberals' heads rent-free along with Donald Trump?
No, they are real people who actually need affordable medical care or they and their families will die due to the lack. There is no way to bring medical costs down given the countries current state of late stage capitalism. We don’t train and retain enough doctors, nor educate our population to the extent necessary to eventually produce replacements. Costs will keep rising because they are fueling our consumer economy.
 
No, they are real people who actually need affordable medical care or they and their families will die due to the lack. There is no way to bring medical costs down given the countries current state of late stage capitalism. We don’t train and retain enough doctors, nor educate our population to the extent necessary to eventually produce replacements. Costs will keep rising because they are fueling our consumer economy.
Still no actual list of these millions of people. OK.
 
Fake news.

Trump vows to replace ObamaCare with his own alternative​

For 4 years he said his better plan would be released in a few weeks.

It never was.
 
Still no actual list of these millions of people. OK.
Yeah, I don’t have their names and addresses. That’s not what you’re looking for anyway. It wouldn’t matter if I did have that info for you, you’d just find some other reason to deflect.
 
For 4 years he said his better plan would be released in a few weeks.

It never was.
I think we have accepted, for better or for worse - and I think that it is for worse - that Trump need not tell the truth or be held accountable for his exaggerations or false promises. His big beautiful ACA alternative, his total Muslim ban, Mexico paying for the wall, him being “the first,” “the only,” President ., never happened. His supporters don’t care that this never materialized while his opponents roll their eyes in wonder. It was expressed well some time ago that people should take him “seriously, but not literally.” Trump speaks to people’s emotions, resentments and biases. Facts, reality and decency don’t matter. His approach has served him well since his Central Park Five ads.
 
Kinda hard without some details. Who are these "millions of diehard Republicans [that] are on Obamacare" who "say without it they or their loved ones would die?"
The ones that are on Obamacare and are too stupid to know that it is Obamacare

— They hated Obamacare but they never understood the Affordable Care Act. This is the uber-explanation for much of what follows. Hating Obamacare became just what you did on the right. It didn’t mean you understood it, beyond maybe getting that it was a government program and thus paid for by taxes. It certainly (and this turned out to be very important) didn’t mean you had any ideas about what it did, how it worked or how many people were benefiting from it … or how to replace it.

 
Yeah, I don’t have their names and addresses. That’s not what you’re looking for anyway. It wouldn’t matter if I did have that info for you, you’d just find some other reason to deflect.
Just want some evidence for the huge numbers claimed besides 2 videos of a dozen or fewer people (not all of them are even on record as having voted for Trump):

The ones that are on Obamacare and are too stupid to know that it is Obamacare

— They hated Obamacare but they never understood the Affordable Care Act. This is the uber-explanation for much of what follows. Hating Obamacare became just what you did on the right. It didn’t mean you understood it, beyond maybe getting that it was a government program and thus paid for by taxes. It certainly (and this turned out to be very important) didn’t mean you had any ideas about what it did, how it worked or how many people were benefiting from it … or how to replace it.

Where are these millions of people again?
 
Just want some evidence for the huge numbers claimed besides 2 videos of a dozen or fewer people (not all of them are even on record as having voted for Trump):


Where are these millions of people again?
Would that change the fact that the affordable care act is providing insurance to a bunch of people who wouldn’t have insurance otherwise?
 
Just want some evidence for the huge numbers claimed besides 2 videos of a dozen or fewer people (not all of them are even on record as having voted for Trump):


Where are these millions of people again?

How many do you want? These are entire communities of them. Most Coal workers in WV is not big enough for you?
 
How many do you want? These are entire communities of them. Most Coal workers in WV is not big enough for you?
How do you know their actual medical situations? Can they not get Medicaid? Medicare? How do you know how they voted? You determined all this about MILLIONS of people? Really?
 
Republicans!! Chill out!!

Trump has you covered with his healthcare plan.

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
How do you know their actual medical situations? Can they not get Medicaid? Medicare? How do you know how they voted? You determined all this about MILLIONS of people? Really?

If you watch the videos, it will answer all your questions. I suspect you’re not actually interested or curious enough to find out though. Facts are boring.
 
If you watch the videos, it will answer all your questions. I suspect you’re not actually interested or curious enough to find out though. Facts are boring.
There's a half dozen - a dozen people covered by the video. How does that translate to millions?
 
I think the reason they stick with the Marmaladed Moron is because they cannot bring themselves to admit they've been played like a violin by Trump--that they can't stand the thought that when Trump gets together with his wealthy buddies he's saying things like, "Can you believe how stupid these hillbilly hicks are? They actually believe I'll do everything I promise them. If I told them "If you elect me I'll pass a bill giving every MAGA a brand new F-150" they'd fall for it hook, line and sinker." It must be horrible to realize you've been had and continue to be had by the greatest shyster conman in our nation's history.

"Nothing like it has ever been seen..."🤣🤣🤣
"I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and get away with it."

The most honest hing he's ever said
 
There's a half dozen - a dozen people covered by the video. How does that translate to millions?

Oh I see. OK. So I would love Trump to go there and explain that to them explicitly, making sure to let them know that he doesn’t think it’s not going to affect more than a half dozen of them anyway.
 
Just want some evidence for the huge numbers claimed besides 2 videos of a dozen or fewer people (not all of them are even on record as having voted for Trump):


Where are these millions of people again?

45 million Americans have coverage under the ACA.

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And red states love it just as much as blue ones--maybe even a little more.

 
45 million Americans have coverage under the ACA.

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And red states love it just as much as blue ones--maybe even a little more.

It's not proof of anything. Even the reddest states sometimes have 30% of their votes going to the Dems.
 
Why don’t we just bite the bullet and institute something like Medicare for all? We potentially have couple of dozens of countries to copy from, adapting the best of what they do to the particular circumstances of the US. Look north to Canada, south to Mexico, east to Europe. We’ll get there eventually anyway. Obamacare was just the democrats could get. The GOP went from healthy support of Social Security, to less support of Medicare, to no support of the ACA. They’ll come around eventually.
 
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