The U.S. has virtually no large Republican led cities

[CLAX1911]

What is sad it that we even have studies proving that the penis obsessed gun banners are wrong.

Men happy with penis size more likely to own gun: Scientists

The long-standing assumption linking insecurity over penis size to gun ownership may be inaccurate, a new study says.

www.newsweek.com

It is kind of strange that they project this insecurity onto men but I really think it's to attack them personally and say that they're inadequate.

But the idea that an adult man is insecure about the size of his penis strikes me as strange. When was the 14 year old boy maybe.

 

[CLAX1911]

I firmly believe that a lot of the gun control crowd know that they could not be trusted with a firearm and they project that on the rest of us.

I'm not sure about that one. I think they look at places like Europe and say hey they got it right they have gun control and as a result if you were people are murdered she's not the case they didn't get it right you're a bit slowly losing it's rights. To the point where a young girl whose sister was molested by a third world pervert carried a hatchet and brandished it at a particular pervert that was trying to prove on her and she got arrested.

There was also the man that was fine for praying silently and the comedian that was arrested because Free speech doesn't exist this is what happens when you can't fight back.

Abandoned what I think they want is to arrest people for telling jokes they don't like and for third world perverts to be able to molest children.

 

[Safiel]

I think the axiom is that the size of the penis is inversely proportional to the size of the truck.



In any event, neither urban, suburban or rural areas are objectively any better than the other.

Preference for urban, suburban or rural is PURELY subjective, based on the individual wants, desires and preferences.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

I think the axiom is that the size of the penis is inversely proportional to the size of the truck.

And the size of the gun.

 

[CLAX1911]

And the size of the gun.

Spend a lot of time thinking about other men's penises?

 

[reinaert]

I think that when people complain about how scary and gross and dirty cities are what they're really communicating is that they're contamination averse people.

There's nothing moral or immoral about this aversion, but it is a limitation and it does tend to track with political reaction.

It's okay to be afraid. It's okay to be averse to "strangeness". It's okay to preference what you know and to avoid the discovery of difference.

It's not ideal, and I wouldn't want to live that life, but I wouldn't support depriving someone of it.

But, it's not okay to be averse and then to go on the offensive, to try to level and erase difference in others. You get to have your boundaries but they're not license to decide the boundaries of others.

And it's something else to keep giving money and votes to a guy who takes it beyond personal limits and into cruel vengeance.

 

[LostInSeattle]

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't want to live in a big blue city like Chicago because I:

• Don't want to get shot.

There are more gun deaths per capita in rural vs urban counties.

Firearm Death Rates in Rural vs Urban US Counties - PMC

This cross-sectional study examines the variability in firearm mortality risk by county type across the full rural-urban continuum in the US.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

• Don't want to get knifed.
• Don't want to get accosted by a homeless person asking for "change" for "gas" to "get the kids to school."

I have encountered hundreds of homeless people and never been "accosted."

• Don't need the constant honking and train noise.

Sure I hate that too. But many urban neighborhoods are quiet, including mine. You don't have to live downtown.

• Don't need an easily accessible illegal drug dealer or pimp.

Drug use rates are only slightly higher in urban areas.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db440.pdf

• Don't need overcrowding.
• Don't enjoy standing in line everywhere, including in hours of traffic.

Stand in line where? Stores? No different. I know how to avoid traffic - which can be horrible in Seattle. And rural areas involve lots of driving because nothing is close by.

• Don't want to pay a premium for all of the above.

Agreed. But you get other benefits with that premium.

 

[LostInSeattle]

They smell their own farts and smugly think they're better and smarter than all the rednecks that own real land, get to go wherever they want whenever they want, hardly ever have to wait in line getting "services" that libs think don't exist outside their big blue cities, and can chill and have a barbecue in their quiet yard without having to worry about breaking half a dozen city ordinances. That's how.

What fantasy world are you living in? I barbecue in my backyard all the time.

Rural healthcare is a trainwreck about to happen. The cuts in Trump's budget have put a tremendous squeeze on rural hospitals. And his insane H1B visa policy is deterring doctors from abroad from working in the US. Your lines for medical services are about to get a lot longer.

 

[CLAX1911]

I think that when people complain about how scary and gross and dirty cities are what they're really communicating is that they're contamination averse people.

No it's not because of contaminated people cities literally smell bad. There's sewers there's dumpsters there's storm drains with stagnant water. But then you walk by dumpling House or something like that that smells heavenly

There's nothing moral or immoral about this aversion, but it is a limitation and it does tend to track with political reaction.

It's okay to be afraid. It's okay to be averse to "strangeness". It's okay to preference what you know and to avoid the discovery of difference.

Bunch of the time in the city you have nothing to worry about most of the illegal activities and it's carried out between criminal organizations

It's not ideal, and I wouldn't want to live that life, but I wouldn't support depriving someone of it.

But, it's not okay to be averse and then to go on the offensive, to try to level and erase difference in others. You get to have your boundaries but they're not license to decide the boundaries of others.

Excellent point

And it's something else to keep giving money and votes to a guy who takes it beyond personal limits and into cruel vengeance.

 

[Michael Cole]

No it's not because of contaminated people cities literally smell bad. There's sewers there's dumpsters there's storm drains with stagnant water. But then you walk by dumpling House or something like that that smells heavenly

Have you ever driven through the agricultural northern San Joaquin Valley? Pee Eww. Unlike storm drains, the odor wafts for miles...and miles...and miles.

Bunch of the time in the city you have nothing to worry about most of the illegal activities and it's carried out between criminal organizations

Excellent point

 

[Michael Cole]

They smell their own farts and smugly think they're better and smarter than all the rednecks that own real land, get to go wherever they want whenever they want, hardly ever have to wait in line getting "services" that libs think don't exist outside their big blue cities, and can chill and have a barbecue in their quiet yard without having to worry about breaking half a dozen city ordinances. That's how.

Your world is divided into rednecks and libs? Real land and what? Fake land? Why wouldn't people be able to go where they want? I waited in line forever at the Dollar General in Beatty. The only ordinance here involving barbeque is related to fire restrictions, and it's dependent on conditions. Very rare that backyard cooking is prohibited, and it's usually in the forested areas, which are suburban and rural.

Your post is wild. Fantastic nonsensical bullshit. Where do you get it?

You can get 14.5 acres of land in exurban Virginia City Highlands for $69k or a one acre lot in suburban Marama beginning at $750k.

Which is "real land?"

 

[Michael Cole]

Depends on how they spread themselves out. If they picked one or two rural areas to live in, sure.

It depends on how the government classifies rural and urban, which is arbitrary and subjective. You posted this article from 2022.

Nation’s Urban and Rural Populations Shift Following 2020 Census

The nation's urban population increased by 6.4% between 2010 and 2020 based on 2020 Census data and a change in the way urban areas are defined.

www.census.gov

The classifications rely heavily on density and distance. This change, as well as the metric itself, is subjective:

• The jump distance was reduced from 2.5 miles to 1.5 miles for 2020. Jump distance is the distance along roads used to connect high-density urban territories surrounded by rural territory.

This metric doesn't appear to account for topography. Here, from the Red Rock exit in Stead to the next exit in Cold Springs is 2.6 miles. The towns are separated by mountains, and the freeway goes between rugged undevelopable berms. If the distance between the valleys were 1.1 miles less, the classification would change. People live in Cold Springs because of its rural feel, but it's just another North Valleys suburb.

This entire area is built into mountains. Lockwood is a tiny town 2.9 miles east of Sparks. It's the first piece of flat land, tiny as it is, that you encounter when traveling east from Sparks on I-80. If there were a patch of flat land closer to the city, the town would be there. According to the above metric, this would be rural, but its just another suburb, separated by mountains.

These are two examples. There are more.

What is rural? Agriculture? That would make Fresno, with a population of over 500,000, rural. Can't be that. Population density? Okay. Can there be rural areas within a city? The city and county here have LLR (large lot residential) zoning. It's reserved for the outskirts. People typically buy these as horse properties. They're all over the North Valleys. The density in these areas is very low but many are within the city limits. Rural?

Rednecks? Is that rural to you? Lmao. Lots of rednecks around here. Hell, the rodeo grounds are right in the middle of the city.

What's rural? Having a cornfield longer than 1.5 miles along the highway?

 

[reinaert]

No it's not because of contaminated people cities literally smell bad. There's sewers there's dumpsters there's storm drains with stagnant water. But then you walk by dumpling House or something like that that smells heavenly

(snip)

One of the better run routes I take has a hog farm around 10 miles in. Nothing - and I mean nothing - rivals that stench. It starts choking you and burning your eyes a half mile off, and further on a hot day, and since you descend to the farm, and then ascend away from it, you climb the next mile in the worst of stanks, while having to reach in and breathe for a steep grade.

That run is 90% rural.

 

[venice_ca]

Have you ever driven through the agricultural northern San Joaquin Valley? Pee Eww. Unlike storm drains, the odor wafts for miles...and miles...and miles.

One of the better run routes I take has a hog farm around 10 miles in. Nothing - and I mean nothing - rivals that stench. It starts choking you and burning your eyes a half mile off, and further on a hot day, and since you descend to the farm, and then ascend away from it, you climb the next mile in the worst of stanks, while having to reach in and breathe for a steep grade.

That run is 90% rural.

When I was a girl, the city of Cerritos, in southern Los Angeles County, was named Dairy Valley, and had more cows than residents. When passing the area on the San Diego Freeway, at 65 mph, the stench was so great that all windows were immediately closed.

Same for agricultural areas in Camarillo and Oxnard after fields were fertilized. In Oxnard there were still the occasional smut pots left in orchards even after their use had been banned for the gawd awful pollution that they produced. Might have been the same in Camarillo but family travels didn’t pass by orchards there.

 

[Safiel]

When I was a girl, the city of Cerritos, in southern Los Angeles County, was named Dairy Valley, and had more cows than residents. When passing the area on the San Diego Freeway, at 65 mph, the stench was so great that all windows were immediately closed.

Same for agricultural areas in Camarillo and Oxnard after fields were fertilized. In Oxnard there were still the occasional smut pots left in orchards even after their use had been banned for the gawd awful pollution that they produced. Might have been the same in Camarillo but family travels didn’t pass by orchards there.

Back in the day, you always knew when you were passing Brunswick, Georgia on Interstate 95. Papermills in the day produced a very unmistakable odor.

 

[CLAX1911]

One of the better run routes I take has a hog farm around 10 miles in. Nothing - and I mean nothing - rivals that stench. It starts choking you and burning your eyes a half mile off, and further on a hot day, and since you descend to the farm, and then ascend away from it, you climb the next mile in the worst of stanks, while having to reach in and breathe for a steep grade.

That run is 90% rural.

Imagine the same thing with way more pigs and they're all living on top of one another

 

[Cosmo]

There are more gun deaths per capita in rural vs urban counties.

Firearm Death Rates in Rural vs Urban US Counties - PMC

This cross-sectional study examines the variability in firearm mortality risk by county type across the full rural-urban continuum in the US.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Your first sentence, and already you have a full-blown strawman going! I didn't say anything about "gun deaths," I said I want to avoid being shot/knifed. That means I want to avoid having violent crime committed against me regardless of the implement. You of course have to engage in strawmanship and change the discussion to "gun deaths," which includes suicides and excludes non-firearm violent crime.

Your inability to debate honestly is noted.

I have encountered hundreds of homeless people and never been "accosted."

Sure I hate that too. But many urban neighborhoods are quiet, including mine. You don't have to live downtown.

Drug use rates are only slightly higher in urban areas.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db440.pdf

Stand in line where? Stores? No different.

Uhuh.

We compared Trader Joe's stores in the city and in the suburbs — and the loser was clear

Trader Joe's has become a very popular grocery store chain, but where you shop can completely change your experience.

www.businessinsider.com

Urban stores were harder to navigate and tended to have longer lines, which left us longing for the peaceful shopping experience back in the suburbs.

I know how to avoid traffic

Me too: avoid big cities.

- which can be horrible in Seattle. And rural areas involve lots of driving because nothing is close by.

Agreed. But you get other benefits with that premium.

And yet your post contains just one alleged benefit, and it's a strawman.

 

[Cosmo]

Your world is divided into rednecks and libs? Real land and what? Fake land? Why wouldn't people be able to go where they want? I waited in line forever at the Dollar General in Beatty. The only ordinance here involving barbeque is related to fire restrictions, and it's dependent on conditions. Very rare that backyard cooking is prohibited, and it's usually in the forested areas, which are suburban and rural.

Your post is wild. Fantastic nonsensical bullshit. Where do you get it?

You can get 14.5 acres of land in exurban Virginia City Highlands for $69k or a one acre lot in suburban Marama beginning at $750k.

Which is "real land?"

Could you explain what you are arguing? What is the significance of citing Virginia City Highlands and Marama?

It depends on how the government classifies rural and urban, which is arbitrary and subjective. You posted this article from 2022.

Right, because the 2030 census isn't out yet. What's your point again?

Nation’s Urban and Rural Populations Shift Following 2020 Census

The nation's urban population increased by 6.4% between 2010 and 2020 based on 2020 Census data and a change in the way urban areas are defined.

www.census.gov

The classifications rely heavily on density and distance. This change, as well as the metric itself, is subjective:

• The jump distance was reduced from 2.5 miles to 1.5 miles for 2020. Jump distance is the distance along roads used to connect high-density urban territories surrounded by rural territory.

This metric doesn't appear to account for topography. Here, from the Red Rock exit in Stead to the next exit in Cold Springs is 2.6 miles. The towns are separated by mountains, and the freeway goes between rugged undevelopable berms. If the distance between the valleys were 1.1 miles less, the classification would change. People live in Cold Springs because of its rural feel, but it's just another North Valleys suburb.

This entire area is built into mountains. Lockwood is a tiny town 2.9 miles east of Sparks. It's the first piece of flat land, tiny as it is, that you encounter when traveling east from Sparks on I-80. If there were a patch of flat land closer to the city, the town would be there. According to the above metric, this would be rural, but its just another suburb, separated by mountains.

These are two examples. There are more.

What is rural? Agriculture? That would make Fresno, with a population of over 500,000, rural. Can't be that. Population density? Okay. Can there be rural areas within a city? The city and county here have LLR (large lot residential) zoning. It's reserved for the outskirts. People typically buy these as horse properties. They're all over the North Valleys. The density in these areas is very low but many are within the city limits. Rural?

Rednecks? Is that rural to you? Lmao. Lots of rednecks around here. Hell, the rodeo grounds are right in the middle of the city.

What's rural? Having a cornfield longer than 1.5 miles along the highway?

 

[Michael Cole]

Could you explain what you are arguing?

I asked you first.

 

[Cosmo]

I asked you first.

You brought up Virginia City Highlands and Marama. Why?

 

[Michael Cole]

You brought up Virginia City Highlands and Marama. Why?

You mentioned "real land?" Why?

I asked you first.

 

[Cosmo]

You mentioned "real land?" Why?

To point out the difference between paying rent for an apartment or "owning" a co-op (and thus an abstract fraction of the land associated with that share) compared to owning actual, tangible, physically usable, non-abstract land.

I asked you first.

Your turn!

 

[Michael Cole]

To point out the difference between paying rent for an apartment or "owning" a co-op (and thus an abstract fraction of the land associated with that share) compared to owning actual, tangible, physically usable, non-abstract land.

I see. I mean, who wouldn't know "real land" means that.

Good stuff.

Your turn!

Uh, no. I made my points. Others understand. Must be a redneck thing. A city redneck thing.

Renovations begin at Nevada State Fairgrounds

Renovations begin at Nevada State Fairgrounds

www.kolotv.com

Your views on what's rural are odd. The government's classifications are arbitrary and subjective.

Maybe a picture will help you.



That's the Lockwood interchange. I mentioned Lockwood earlier. Mountains, river, freeway, mountains, for 2.9 miles. From Vista Blvd. in east Sparks, this is what you see. No towns. No homes. No buildings. No nothing. Anything over 1.5 miles on connecting roads is rural according to the government. Those who live in Lockwood don't consider themselves country folk. They work, shop and play in the city, like other suburbanites. They live 2.9 miles away from the next densely populated area because of topography. The distance doesn't make Lockwood rural any more than moving the tiny patch of flat land closer would make it urban.

The world isn't binary. There is more than one kind of redneck.

Good stuff. Don't get caught in line.

 

[Cosmo]

I see. I mean, who wouldn't know "real land" means that.

Good stuff.


Uh, no.

Just as I thought.

I made my points. Others understand.

Uhuh.

Must be a redneck thing. A city redneck thing.

Renovations begin at Nevada State Fairgrounds

Renovations begin at Nevada State Fairgrounds

www.kolotv.com

Your views on what's rural are odd. The government's classifications are arbitrary and subjective.

Maybe a picture will help you.

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That's the Lockwood interchange. I mentioned Lockwood earlier. Mountains, river, freeway, mountains, for 2.9 miles. From Vista Blvd. in east Sparks, this is what you see. No towns. No homes. No buildings. No nothing. Anything over 1.5 miles on connecting roads is rural according to the government. Those who live in Lockwood don't consider themselves country folk. They work, shop and play in the city, like other suburbanites. They live 2.9 miles away from the next densely populated area because of topography. The distance doesn't make Lockwood rural any more than moving the tiny patch of flat land closer would make it urban.

The world isn't binary. There is more than one kind of redneck.

Good stuff. Don't get caught in line.