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The trump tax cuts have given us 4, 5, 6 % growth and paid for themselves

So exactly what does the debt have to do with private citizens getting richer? your class envy and jealousy is on full display. Still waiting for you to provide data supporting your claim that the deficit was due to the tax cuts

What class envy or jealousy? Financing deficit spending while enriching the Richest only makes sense to the right wing.
 
This economy could've been even better if Pelosi was actually a compromiser and negotiated a big infrastructure bill with Trump. She really needs help. Even Boehner and he was a Rino would've negotiated an infrastructure bill by now.
 
Oh no, they didn't. It's almost like giving tax cuts to rich people doesn't help the economy very much.

Oh please.

Lets face it. You guys hate people who have enough money to pay taxes. My marginal rate went down from the 31%/28% area to 22%. I don't consider myself rich at all, just middle-class.

I take such attacks personally, as anyone making such claims, obviously collect subsidies from people like me, and don't understand how much this improves my life.

Continuing attacks on the lowering of taxes is very ignorant and/or hateful in my book.
 
What class envy or jealousy? Financing deficit spending while enriching the Richest only makes sense to the right wing.

Where did you get your education? Tax cuts financing debt??? OMG, I really do feel sorry for people like you so indoctrinated and so poorly educated on our basic economy. Waiting for you to prove your point with data, you can't!!
 

I have to admit a term that drives me crazy is "people keeping more of what they earned". That statement is only fair if we were running a budget surplus,which we are not. We can all complain that congress spends too much,but that is the reality. Regardless of which party runs congress spending goes up. The areas of spending may be different but the spending goes on.

An analogy I like to use is me going into a great restaurant. have a great,expensive meal and then complain to the server who brings the check. Asking him/her why he wants to take money I earned.
 

Is that debt clock supposed to excuse you from not posting data supporting the fact that tax cuts have caused the deficit? It doesn't, the link to the U.S. budget doesn't support your claims as you have no understanding of the U.S. budget and its components, mandatory, discretionary, and debt service along with the taxes created to fund those three areas of expense. Let me help you

FIT, CIT, Excise Taxes fund discretionary budget which includes infrastructure and debt service

FICA funds entitlement spending(SS and Medicare)

1.48 trillion of the 4.8 trillion dollar budget is discretionary spending and FIT, CIT, and Excise generated over 2 trillion in revenue to fund that 1.48 trillion in discretionary spending PLUS the 500 billion in debt service. Liberal math apparently is in place as over 2 trillion in revenue to fund 1.9 trillion in spending causes trillion dollar deficits. Not sure exactly what is wrong with you, but you have zero credibility and the debt clock doesn't show context
 

What it really boils down to is people controlling their own destiny and not being pawns of the federal bureaucrats. When you go into a restaurant you choose to go there, aren't forced to go there and pay for a service. The same holds true with all other personal expenses which are funded by your paycheck. Out of that paycheck comes FICA and FIT which leaves you with spendable income. The more that is withheld the less spendable income you have thus you and your state suffers as you aren't generating revenue through sales taxes. I don't get your analogy and will never understand the ignorance from the left on the role of the federal, state, and local governments along with their ignorance of the taxes they pay or their purpose
 

Tax Cut economics either balances the budget or it doesn't. I don't care for the special pleading of excuses. Anybody could implement Tax Cut economics where the our Debt grows but the Richest get richer. Half an equation is worthless, right wingers.
 

Tax cut economics?? You really have no understanding of the taxes you pay or their purpose, just admit it? Your class envy and jealousy just shows liberal ignorance
 

Your argument alleging that each federal "budget" line item item has some special (dedicated?) funding source makes no sense. What tax was "created" (and when) to fund interest on the national debt? What tax was "created" (and when) to fund Medicaid? What tax was "created" (and when) to fund the Great Wall Of Trump?
 
This economy could've been even better if Pelosi was actually a compromiser and negotiated a big infrastructure bill with Trump. She really needs help. Even Boehner and he was a Rino would've negotiated an infrastructure bill by now.
Interesting seeing Pelosi and the " do nothing House " have already passed several hundred bills ( some were infrastructure bills ) that are sitting on McConnell's desk
Maybe IF he would do his job some of these bills would be passed and we could have something being done
But NO McConnell is stopping them from going in front of the Senate to be voted on,
YES lets blame Pelosi and the Dems, in the House when it is McConnell and the do nothing Republicans in the Senate
Have a nice day
 
Tax cut economics?? You really have no understanding of the taxes you pay or their purpose, just admit it? Your class envy and jealousy just shows liberal ignorance

Anybody could implement Tax Cut economics where our Debt grows but the Richest get richer. Half an equation is worthless, right wingers.
 

You are right, it makes no sense to those who believe in the Unified budget and that SS and Medicare funding could be borrowed to fund individual line items other than their original intent. That is the liberal ideology in a nutshell, all dollars are the same regardless of purpose and federal abuse of SS and Medicare funding is ok and never a problem. You have been indoctrinated well by the left
 
Anybody could implement Tax Cut economics where our Debt grows but the Richest get richer. Half an equation is worthless, right wingers.

So there are no benefits to the tax cuts? Any idea where your state and local governments get their revenue to operate? Wow, you have been indoctrinated well and have no solutions other than raising taxes and allowing the federal bureaucrats to spend your money as of course they can do it better than you for your own personal responsibility issues
 

No, they are not. With massive budget surpluses, infrastructure would be more consistent and even pro-active. Seawalls for the the general welfare!
 
No, they are not. With massive budget surpluses, infrastructure would be more consistent and even pro-active. Seawalls for the the general welfare!

You really don't have a clue as to what you are talking about and never answer a direct question, where do the state and local governments get their money? You think that gov't should have massive budget surpluses. You are an indictment against the education system in this country
 

lol. I definitely don't believe the People should be financing the wealth of the Richest via the Public Debt. Only lousy capitalists lose money on public policies if they don't need to.
 
lol. I definitely don't believe the People should be financing the wealth of the Richest via the Public Debt. Only lousy capitalists lose money on public policies if they don't need to.

How are people financing the wealth of the rich? You seem to believe personal choice on where to spend your money is someone else's responsibility. You obviously hate the private sector and hate your own state and local gov't. Still no answer where does the state and local gov't get their revenue from?

You are an example of pure socialism where personal income always belongs to the gov't first and thus is an expense. That again is an indictment against the education system in this country

Tax cuts don't cause deficits they create economic activity and that grows revenue. The budget of the United States shows that. Keep making excuses for the misuse of SS and Medicare funding
 
Only the Right Wing, never gets the economics of it.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Nice pretty link, irrelevant but pretty, no context. Do you know what context means? Where is the data that tax cuts are an expense and cause deficits? Explain how the Trump tax cuts have cut revenue since the budget of the U.S. Treasury Dept. doesn't show that
 

Your ideology "in a nutshell", that $1T annual federal deficits do not matter because you like having lower federal income tax rates and Trump's desire for more federal spending, is even more of a problem.
 

Government costs; either the Richest pay for it with taxes or it gets financed so the Richest can get tax cut economics to help them increase their wealth.
 
Your ideology "in a nutshell", that $1T annual federal deficits do not matter because you like having lower federal income tax rates and Trump's desire for more federal spending, is even more of a problem.

Exactly, the federal gov't is going to spend and buy votes, keeping more of what I earn insulates me from the federal bureaucrats and makes me more in control than them. Higher taxes hurts the state, local governments and the people but fuels bureaucrats and covers up their waste, fraud, and abuse
 
Government costs; either the Richest pay for it with taxes or it gets financed so the Richest can get tax cut economics to help them increase their wealth.

So gov't costs are whatever the bureaucrats want them to be? You ever going to explain where your state gets its revenue? The rich are never going to fund your liberal spending appetite and eventually you are going to run out of someone else's money to spend on programs the bureaucrats want you to have. Your understanding of personal responsibility as well as state and local responsibility is NIL
 
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