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Logical1

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In the past there has been several instances of bakers and other businesses being sued for not providing their service. The best known case is of course a baker that didnt want to do business with homosexuals, because it violated their Christian belief.

But now that is all changed. In the news, a man was thrown out of Costco because he wasnt wearing a mask. If business have to serve ALL people, yet Costco can refuse that customer, why cant the Baker?
 
Logical1 said:
In the past there has been several instances of bakers and other businesses being sued for not providing their service. The best known case is of course a baker that didnt want to do business with homosexuals, because it violated their Christian belief.

But now that is all changed. In the news, a man was thrown out of Costco because he wasnt wearing a mask. If business have to serve ALL people, yet Costco can refuse that customer, why cant the Baker?
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If I went into a Costco not wearing pants and get thrown out... can I declare I was thrown out unfairly?
 
Logical1 said:
In the past there has been several instances of bakers and other businesses being sued for not providing their service. The best known case is of course a baker that didnt want to do business with homosexuals, because it violated their Christian belief.

But now that is all changed. In the news, a man was thrown out of Costco because he wasnt wearing a mask. If business have to serve ALL people, yet Costco can refuse that customer, why cant the Baker?
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So you don't wear pants when you go to Costco?

Where is that?

I don't need to see that...
 
What kind of discrimination is being enforced by requiring that people wear a mask?
 
From the Costco incident, it would seem that any store can refuse service for any reason they chose.
 
Logical1 said:
From the Costco incident, it would seem that any store can refuse service for any reason they chose.
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Could they refuse service if the person is black?
 
Drowning Man said:
What kind of discrimination is being enforced by requiring that people wear a mask?
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They are discriminating against people that believe wearing a mask is almost totally useless. The best of masks may filter out droplets down to 3 microns. It is a proven fact the China virus measures 1.2 microns, therefore masks really are useless. Costco is discriminating against INFORMED would be customers.
 
Logical1 said:
They are discriminating against people that believe wearing a mask is almost totally useless. The best of masks may filter out droplets down to 3 microns. It is a proven fact the China virus measures 1.2 microns, therefore masks really are useless. Costco is discriminating against INFORMED would be customers.
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So, do you understand what discrimination is?
 
Logical1 said:
But their (safety) reason is totally flawed. What about the opinion of the would be customer?
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Yeah take that number nonsense to a court and see how it works out for you, just be ready to pay their attorney fees, because they will counter your lawsuit with their own. Go for it.
 
Jezcoe said:
If I went into a Costco not wearing pants and get thrown out... can I declare I was thrown out unfairly?
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Only if you are a member of one of the protected species.
 
Logical1 said:
If Costco's reason is reason enough, why isnt the baker's reason good enough too?
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Because the reason the baker refuses to do business with LGBT folks has nothing to do with customer safety. It is irrational discrimination against a group of people for something they can't control.
 
Logical1 said:
In the past there has been several instances of bakers and other businesses being sued for not providing their service. The best known case is of course a baker that didnt want to do business with homosexuals, because it violated their Christian belief.

But now that is all changed. In the news, a man was thrown out of Costco because he wasnt wearing a mask. If business have to serve ALL people, yet Costco can refuse that customer, why cant the Baker?
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First, the baker won on appeal to SCOTUS.
Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission - Wikipedia

Second, your comparison of refusing service because of the owners religious beliefs and Costco booting a customer out for refusing to comply with company safety requirements is plain stupid.

There is no Constitutional right to disregard the store’s safety policy.
 
lwf said:
Because the reason the baker refuses to do business with LGBT folks has nothing to do with customer safety. It is irrational discrimination against a group of people for something they can't control.
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No the homosexual customer was trying to violate that bakers First Amendment right. I suggest you read the first amendment.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
First, the baker won on appeal to SCOTUS.
Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission - Wikipedia

Second, your comparison of refusing service because of the owners religious beliefs and Costco booting a customer out for refusing to comply with company safety requirements is plain stupid.

There is no Constitutional right to disregard the store’s safety policy.
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Even if that stores "safety policy" is based on flawed science. I thot liberals were all for science.
 
Logical1 said:
No the homosexual customer was trying to violate that bakers First Amendment right. I suggest you read the first amendment.
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I cannot violate a store owner's first amendment right by patronizing his store. He can violate my rights if he refuses to serve me based on something that I can't control and in no way affects him. Refusing to do business with someone because of their sexual orientation is no different than refusing to do business with someone based on their skin color. It is equally discriminatory, and any business that does so should lose their business license.
 
The needs of the many

Logical1 said:
From the Costco incident, it would seem that any store can refuse service for any reason they chose.
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Was the store following health guidance on masks from the state or the city? If the governor or mayor declared a health emergency, & ordered wearing face masks & observing social distancing & etc., then the store isn't acting on a whim. If state or local government orders specific steps that the store follows, then it would be hard to argue discrimination by the store on that basis.
 
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