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Our laws spring from the constitution. While the constitution does not draw and distinctions between a person and one in the womb, our laws do infer rights to them. If you maliciously cause the death of an unborn child, you are charged with murder. How do you square that one?What does our Constitution have to say about Rights of the unborn?
What needs to be squared?Our laws spring from the constitution. While the constitution does not draw and distinctions between a person and one in the womb, our laws do infer rights to them. If you maliciously cause the death of an unborn child, you are charged with murder. How do you square that one?
Would pretty much eliminate the human race. We are too consumed to have the operation which was done at birth reversed. Some number of males, compelled to parenthood would do it. Most would not and before you know it, we would walk ourselves into extinction.Could be done at birth, pretty much would eliminate the need for abortions.
You forgot to add this - but, in the meantime, a minority group of religious nutjobs would like to be in control of women's bodies.Maybe people ought to just be more responsible and take ownership for their actions? That would solve lots of problems.
You can only murder a person right? If the law considers the unborn child a person then how is abortion not murder? Bear in mind I do not advocate for abortion to be made illegal. I am just wrestling with the issue in my own mind.What needs to be squared?
Does the law consider the unborn a person? Is the unborn you're talking about in another person, who is planning to give birth to a child?You can only murder a person right? If the law considers the unborn child a person then how is abortion not murder? Bear in mind I do not advocate for abortion to be made illegal. I am just wrestling with the issue in my own mind.
Again. Here is a senario, a pregnant woman is intentionally injured by another person. As a result, the baby in her dies. This is by the law murder. Someone has murdered a person. Regardless of whether the mother intends to give birth or not, it is considered murder.Does the law consider the unborn a person? Is the unborn you're talking about in another person, who is planning to give birth to a child?
I accept that, even if she was at the door of the abortion clinic about to have an abortion.Again. Here is a senario, a pregnant woman is intentionally injured by another person. As a result, the baby in her dies. This is by the law murder. Someone has murdered a person. Regardless of whether the mother intends to give birth or not, it is considered murder.
Maybe people ought to just be more responsible and take ownership for their actions? That would solve lots of problems.
I find some who do quite a good job of murdering the English language, leaving me to simply wonder what they wanted to say.You can only murder a person right? If the law considers the unborn child a person then how is abortion not murder? Bear in mind I do not advocate for abortion to be made illegal. I am just wrestling with the issue in my own mind.
So one minute its a person and the next minute its not a person. That makes zero sense and I think you know it makes zero sense.I accept that, even if she was at the door of the abortion clinic about to have an abortion.
Abortion is legal, murder is not.
In one instance it is feticide while in the other it is abortion.So one minute its a person and the next minute its not a person. That makes zero sense and I think you know it makes zero sense.
Once you get appointed to SCOTUS, you can interpret the law that way.That sounds like a reasonable compromise, though I find nothing in the Constitution that would support preventing a Woman from having an abortion at any time prior to birth.
I'm free to interpret the law any way I wish without being appointed to the SCOTUS, I simply cannot apply the law as I interpret it.Once you get appointed to SCOTUS, you can interpret the law that way.
That's what I meant, I just didn't phrase it right.I'm free to interpret the law any way I wish without being appointed to the SCOTUS, I simply cannot apply the law as I interpret it.
I'm unable to become pregnant, nor am I likely to get anyone pregnant at my age.
Fair enough.That's what I meant, I just didn't phrase it right.
Feticide is murder. Commit it and you get life enprisionment. So it's a person if you muder him or her. You cannot murder a cat. You cannot murder a horse. You can only murder a person.In one instance it is feticide while in the other it is abortion.
Our laws spring from the constitution. While the constitution does not draw and distinctions between a person and one in the womb, our laws do infer rights to them. If you maliciously cause the death of an unborn child, you are charged with murder. How do you square that one?
Mine wasn't reversible, but I still agree with you. You can get them so they are. Parents of boys might consider giving them reversible vasectomies. It's going to have zero effect on their lives except prevent them from causing unwanted pregnancies. I wish I could claim this as my idea but my therapist actually suggested it and I agree with her.
Nope. Vasectomies are voluntary. Forced pregnancies are not. Nice try - you must be a Tucker watcher - he comes up with some cool catch-phrases, but he doesn't prepare you for defending the bullshit, does he? I can't help you.So if we do that, can we then restrict abortion? If that's the trade, I'll definitely take it.
Specific members of this forum not being called out in my post here. This world might be a much better place if some folks were not allowed to prorate.LOL you offering yourself up or just others?
Like all the Republicans trying to white-wash their actions on 1/6? I agree, absolutely!!!Maybe people ought to just be more responsible and take ownership for their actions? That would solve lots of problems.
Feticide is the killing of a fetus, can't really comment on what the sentence might be for conviction though. The point is that abortion is legal when chosen by the Woman containing the fetus. Her decision alone, like it or not.Feticide is murder. Commit it and you get life enprisionment. So it's a person if you muder him or her. You cannot murder a cat. You cannot murder a horse. You can only murder a person.
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