Uh, sorry to the burst the big bubble in your crainum, but the percentages at the bottom of that chart does not quote the pct. of taxes paid. . .
a fact which becomes brutally obvious when adding up all the percentages at the bottom and seeing that it doesn't total to 100% ?!
'authoritative' =/= 'official'...try again
ps: many 'Tea Party' groups are 501(c)...does that make them 'authoritative'?
You're right...now get back to me on the data in post #384...from an 'official' source...:lamo
Actually, nothing is as hilarious as you desperately that payroll taxes ARE NOT income taxes, even though it's money taken by the federal govt. based on income that IS NOT given back to the taxpayer.
Probably not, considering that unlike the ITEP, their data isn't based on and doesn't cite actual tax tables from the various and the IRS.
Can't, still laughing at td's apparent failure to comprehend basic arithmetic.
Can't, still laughing at td's apparent failure to comprehend basic arithmetic.
So following your supposition, the 95%er's payroll taxes are included in the general fund for use by the government...? Ok now how much of that is returned to those same folks in the form of:
And I especially liked the next sentence:
US Welfare System - Help for US Citizens
Are these not 'given back to the taxpayer'...based on income?
The US gov't always claims that all taxpayer monies are redistributed in a way that benefits the taxpayer, but any real Libertarian worth her salt knows that's usually a crock of ****.
If you were a real Libertarian, instead of some tp limbaugh hack, you'd know that.
Why? Do you feel it the mature thing to do to ridicule someone else? Is that the 'Libertarian' thing to do?
AH, and this was predicted MANY years ago...
Ah, so Dickieboy actually believes the federal govt. about how it claims it intends to use taxpayer money
Strawman...
Why are you now attacking me? Can you not respond to the data provided in #384? Can you not respond to the FACT that SOME of the monies that you claim are being paid in by the 95%ers IS in FACT coming back to them as welfare/entitlements?
Ah, I get it. So the FICA taxes aren't really a tax because the feds are saying that those monies will be used to benefit those who pay it. . .
and Dickieboy, the self-proclaimed "Libertarian" believes the govt.! :lol:
Man, this thread just gets better every post
Can't, still laughing at td's apparent failure to comprehend basic arithmetic.
...and Dickieboy, the self-proclaimed "Libertarian" believes the govt.! :lol:
Ah, I get it. So the FICA taxes aren't really a tax because the feds are saying that those monies will be used to benefit those who pay it. . .
so you have abandoned the dishonest claim that FICA charges are part of the FEDERAL INCOME TAX and now saying it is really some kind of TAX.
we are getting somewhere. and as someone who actually was officially part of the Libertarian party, Dickieboy's posts are in line with the movement. Yours appear to be reactionary populist, the descendent of the Know Nothing Movement more than a century ago
and I was not making any argument other than noting that the top 5% pay more than half of the FEDERAL INCOME TAX.
The Congressional Budget Office breaks down the 2007 share of the tax burden according to each segment of the population as follows:[19]
The highest quintile in total earned 55.9% of all income. It paid 86.0% of federal income taxes and 68.9% of all federal taxes
The top 1% earned 19.4% of all income. It paid 39.5% of income taxes and 28.1% of all federal taxes
The next 4% earned 12.9% of income. It paid 21.5%. of income taxes and 16.2% of all federal taxes
The next 5% earned 9.7% of income. It paid 11.7% of income taxes and 10.7% of all federal taxes
The next 10% earned 13.9% of income. It paid 13.3% of income taxes and 13.9% of all federal taxes.
The fourth quintile earned 19.3% of income. It paid 12.7% of income taxes and 16.5 of all federal taxes.
The third quintile earned 13.1% of income. It paid 4.6% of income taxes and 9.2% of all federal taxes.
The second quintile earned 8.4%. It paid a net -0.3% of income taxes, meaning in aggregate this quintile received slightly more back in income tax credits than it paid in income taxes. It paid 4.4% of all federal taxes.
The lowest quintile earned 4.0% of all income and received a net -3.0% income tax credits. It paid 1.0% of all federal taxes.
Source: Tax Foundation
Except I didn't? I specifically mentioned which study I was talking about, quoted from the study, and then showed you a graph relating modern day political figures. Don't blame me for your willful ignorance on a subject when I've given you all the information you need.You said that historians argue about who is more Liberal, Washington, or Lincoln.
Post a link to those docs, or just admit that you lied through your teeth about the whole issue. Thanks...case closed.
I don't tend to cater to the demands of posters whose posts are generally dishonest and fail to honestly address the issue
so you have abandoned the dishonest claim that FICA charges are part of the FEDERAL INCOME TAX and now saying it is really some kind of TAX.
Social Security payroll taxes are collected under the authority of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA). The payroll taxes are sometimes even called FICA taxes.
The Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA) tax includes two separate taxes. One is social security tax and the other is Medicare tax. Different rates apply for each of these.
The current tax rate for social security is 6.2% for the employer and 6.2% for the employee, or 12.4% total. The current rate for Medicare is 1.45% for the employer and 1.45% for the employee, or 2.9% total. Refer to Publication 15, (Circular E), Employer's Tax Guide, Chapter 6, for more information, or for agricultural employers refer to Publication 51, (Circular A), Agricultural Employer’s Tax Guide, Chapter 5.
In debate, when you make claims of fact, it is right and proper for others to ask you to support them with verifiable evidence. Why would you consistently eschew providing evidence for your claims and then even brag about it? How does that further debate?
The problem is the Tea Party movement was never about that. It was a direct reaction to Obama's election. They had no problem with growing debt for 30 years. They suddenly have a problem with it when Obama gets elected.
You're wrong, it was a reaction to George Bush and all his spending.
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