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The OSHA vaccine mandate is reality!

Ethel2

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Important to note the mandate allows for weekly Covid tests in lieu of the vaccine, healthcare workers excepted. The employees have choice.
 
It's a contentious mandate targeting a population that's already one of the more heavily vaccinated. Meh.

Probably as much political tool as anything else. I'm sure it will be popular with the "covidiot" idiots.
 
Ethel2 said:
I heard that the employers can pass along the cost of these weekly tests to the covidiots.
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I think the costs should be passed on. I also heard that this is the minimum the employer/employee must adhere to. Employers can go further, ie no test option, increasing the employees portion of health insurance etc. I heard that but haven't verified it separately so don't know if it is factual?
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

Let the lawsuits begin.
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Yeah, I'll be surprised if it actually goes into effect on Jan 4th. An "emergency rule" that took two months to write, doesn't actually target populations of concern, and won't go into effect until the worst is behind us.

Meh.
 
Callen said:
They already have, weeks ago!
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Not really. There hasn't been any OSHA rule to file suit over until now.

You may be thinking of lawsuits for other mandates.
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

Let the lawsuits begin.
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Supreme Court has pretty solid precedent ruling on vaccine mandates, so have at it. Didn't stop the Christian Taliban from trying to ban abortion even with solid precedent and flying in the face of the constitution

The year was 1904, and when his politically charged legal challenge to the $5 fine for failing to get vaccinated made its way to the Supreme Court, the justices had a surprise for Rev. Jacobson. One man’s liberty, they declared in a 7-2 ruling handed down the following February, cannot deprive his neighbors of their own liberty — in this case by allowing the spread of disease. Jacobson, they ruled, must abide by the order of the Cambridge board of health or pay the penalty.
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www.politico.com

The Surprisingly Strong Supreme Court Precedent Supporting Vaccine Mandates

In 1905, the high court made a fateful ruling with eerie parallels to today: One person’s liberty can’t trump everyone else’s.
www.politico.com www.politico.com
 
Taylor said:
Yeah, I'll be surprised if it actually goes into effect on Jan 4th. An "emergency rule" that took two months to write, doesn't actually target populations of concern, and won't go into effect until the worst is behind us.

Meh.
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Yeah, that was my thought too. If this was being done citing emergency rule authority, it would already be in effect. I imagine the closer we get to Jan 4, a date change may happen again.
 
Artymoon said:
Yeah, that was my thought too. If this was being done citing emergency rule authority, it would already be in effect. I imagine the closer we get to Jan 4, a date change may happen again.
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The emergency persists. There is no time limit on the duration of an emergency.
 
Callen said:
I think the costs should be passed on. I also heard that this is the minimum the employer/employee must adhere to. Employers can go further, ie no test option, increasing the employees portion of health insurance etc. I heard that but haven't verified it separately so don't know if it is factual?
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Note the section that states that companies aren’t required to pay for testing:

“Companies with 100 or more employees must require those workers to get fully vaccinated — with two shots of the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines, or one shot of Johnson & Johnson — by Jan. 4. After that date, any employee who remains unvaccinated must provide a verified negative COVID test weekly. Companies aren’t required to pay for those tests. Unvaccinated employees also must wear masks.”
 
Callen said:
Employers can go further, ie no test option, increasing the employees portion of health insurance etc.
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They were already able to do that. They can have the employee work from home to exempt them from the mandate.
 
Taylor said:
They were already able to do that. They can have the employee work from home to exempt them from the mandate.
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Fine with me -if that’s within the rules. Basically it’s:

Gets vaccinated or stay home!

Let the covidiot whining begin!
The President has broken out the stick, and it’s about time.
 
Taylor said:
Yeah, I'll be surprised if it actually goes into effect on Jan 4th. An "emergency rule" that took two months to write, doesn't target populations of concern, and won't go into effect until the worst is behind us.
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I think it will go into effect but no matter as most large companies are already doing it and employee compliance has been very high. The only real bitching you hear is from the big union shops but that has more to do with wanting to negotiate the terms than the vaccine itself. Contrary to what may be reported on RW media there has been no serious, lasting work disruption or chaos.
 
Ethel2 said:
Let the covidiot whining begin!
The President has broken out the stick, and it’s about time.
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Yes, just like I said in Post #5. The "mandate" is already in effect!
 
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