1. North Korea already has nuclear weapons.The point of this thread isn't to bash anyone. The point is to stimulate thought...
I'm curious if anyone has thought about what happens if we do economically crush Russia.
They have 3 ways of making money on the black market.
1. There will always be buyers for energy. They currently produce 1/5th of the world supply.
2. They could go into the ransomware business full time
3. They could sell off their nuclear parental to the highest bidders.
I'm not against sanctions against Russia but I do wonder if the people in charge are prepared to combat these things.
How much would Iran or North Korea pay to get their hands on a functioning nuclear warhead? What would they do with it? Its a scary thought.
I think the global community needs to be cautious with how we deal with Russia. Their destruction is a unique threat of it's own and I am curious if anyone has taken the time to consider this.
What do you suggest be done to stop a raging and non-thinking bull from attacking and beating down everyone he considers is a problem for him?The point of this thread isn't to bash anyone. The point is to stimulate thought...
I'm curious if anyone has thought about what happens if we do economically crush Russia.
They have 3 ways of making money on the black market.
1. There will always be buyers for energy. They currently produce 1/5th of the world supply.
2. They could go into the ransomware business full time
3. They could sell off their nuclear parental to the highest bidders.
I'm not against sanctions against Russia but I do wonder if the people in charge are prepared to combat these things.
How much would Iran or North Korea pay to get their hands on a functioning nuclear warhead? What would they do with it? Its a scary thought.
I think the global community needs to be cautious with how we deal with Russia. Their destruction is a unique threat of it's own and I am curious if anyone has taken the time to consider this.
I'm not arguing that Russia should not be punished. I see reason to be cautious in how it's done.1. North Korea already has nuclear weapons.
2. Iran already has enough troubles. Inciting Israel to attack probably isn’t high on the Shah’s to do list.
3. Punishments being laid on Putin aren’t only justified, they are necessary.
You are being naive if you think nations are not interested in increasing their nuclear stockpiles.Are the North Koreans looking to buy bombs to replace the ones they already built and tested?
I hope the people you think should consider this are better informed about who already has nukes.
I don't have a suggestion just a warning for caution.What do you suggest be done to stop a raging and non-thinking bull from attacking and beating down everyone he considers is a problem for him?
The only solution (in my opinion( is to castrate him. Anything else is not going to stop the bull once he begins raging.
How much would Iran or North Korea pay to get their hands on a functioning nuclear warhead? What would they do with it?
I think all the intelligent (and sane) minds that are involved in NATO are fully aware of the potential for harmful escalation and are approaching this with all the caution possible. Smart people (not ball controlled people like Putin) will always go step by step and not get ahead of themselves.I don't have a suggestion just a warning for caution.
It is my opinion that the involved nations are using the utmost caution. If you or I could think of that, I'm quite sure experienced military and political advisors thought of it too. The biggest problem we all have is there are too many armchair quarterbacks. Leave it to the professionals and pray. We are doing everything we can do short of sending in troops.I don't have a suggestion just a warning for caution.
Nooe I can not say that I do see why that's significant in this discussion. Please enlighten meNot much or anything as the technology is already in house. They could always sit and look at it. They sure as hell would not use it. They are nation states.
Do you know why them being nation states is significant?
I certainly hope you are right. Russia is a complex dilemma that the world needs to deal with.I think all the intelligent (and sane) minds that are involved in NATO are fully aware of the potential for harmful escalation and are approaching this with all the caution possible. Smart people (not ball controlled people like Putin) will always go step by step and not get ahead of themselves.
Warning for caution is not necessary when so many (not just one person) are involved.
Nooe I can not say that I do see why that's significant in this discussion. Please enlighten me
Your “cautious” reads more like timid to me. Half measures won’t impact Putin enough to move him. His history proves that.I'm not arguing that Russia should not be punished. I see reason to be cautious in how it's done.
All I can say is thank God there is no Trump around now.I certainly hope you are right. Russia is a complex dilemma that the world needs to deal with.
Your “cautious” reads more like timid to me. Half measures won’t impact Putin enough to move him. His history proves that.
The need for careful thought before implementing any action doesn’t escape me.See my last post, this is very delicate. Very delicate.
The need for careful thought before implementing any action doesn’t escape me.
My point is that the solution could be worse than the problem if handled incorrectly. If Russia's only hope for survival is to put nukes out on the black market, why wouldn't they?because no country can stand up to the USA and survive. A nation state would be ended if they attacked the USA.
Nation states by definition are not suicidal.
It's rather simple.
A nuke in a terrorists hand is very different.
Saddam or Kim are/were never a threat for a first strike.
Don't let the rhetoric take you under.
Already understood.I think that is all that poster was advocating.
Don't forget, the memory of Trump is fresh in all our minds.
I'm not timid but I do feel like we are a bit restricted in what we can do.Your “cautious” reads more like timid to me. Half measures won’t impact Putin enough to move him. His history proves that.
What do you mean by “global air strikes”?I'm not timid but I do feel like we are a bit restricted in what we can do.
For instance I am in favor of global airstrikes on all Russian military equipment inside Ukraine borders.
The point of this thread isn't to bash anyone. The point is to stimulate thought...
I'm curious if anyone has thought about what happens if we do economically crush Russia.
They have 3 ways of making money on the black market.
1. There will always be buyers for energy. They currently produce 1/5th of the world supply.
2. They could go into the ransomware business full time
3. They could sell off their nuclear parental to the highest bidders.
I'm not against sanctions against Russia but I do wonder if the people in charge are prepared to combat these things.
How much would Iran or North Korea pay to get their hands on a functioning nuclear warhead? What would they do with it? Its a scary thought.
I think the global community needs to be cautious with how we deal with Russia. Their destruction is a unique threat of it's own and I am curious if anyone has taken the time to consider this.
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