The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S. - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.comThe Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.
What's true, an ATF spokeswoman told FOXNews.com, in a clarification of the statistic used by her own agency's assistant director, "is that over 90 percent of the traced firearms originate from the U.S."
But a large percentage of the guns recovered in Mexico do not get sent back to the U.S. for tracing, because it is obvious from their markings that they do not come from the U.S.
"Not every weapon seized in Mexico has a serial number on it that would make it traceable, and the U.S. effort to trace weapons really only extends to weapons that have been in the U.S. market," Matt Allen, special agent of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), told FOX News.
In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced -- and of those, 90 percent -- 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover -- were found to have come from the U.S.
But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.
In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.
If only liberals read the 2nd amendment like they do the amendment that protects the right to an abortion...Now if our government would enforce our border and immigration laws, we could reduce the number even further.
That would be smart policy, instead of penalizing our citizens by trying to violate the 2nd amendment and banning guns.
The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S. - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com
Now...why do you suppose the Clinton State Department misrepresented that 90% figure?
The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S. - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.comEXCLUSIVE: You've heard this shocking "fact" before -- on TV and radio, in newspapers, on the Internet and from the highest politicians in the land: 90 percent of the weapons used to commit crimes in Mexico come from the United States.
-- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said it to reporters on a flight to Mexico City.
-- CBS newsman Bob Schieffer referred to it while interviewing President Obama.
-- California Sen. Dianne Feinstein said at a Senate hearing: "It is unacceptable to have 90 percent of the guns that are picked up in Mexico and used to shoot judges, police officers and mayors ... come from the United States."
-- William Hoover, assistant director for field operations at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, testified in the House of Representatives that "there is more than enough evidence to indicate that over 90 percent of the firearms that have either been recovered in, or interdicted in transport to Mexico, originated from various sources within the United States."
There's just one problem with the 90 percent "statistic" and it's a big one:
It's just not true.
In fact, it's not even close. The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.
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FOX News said:The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.
That was large part of the previous thread on the same subject -- the press gobbled up the number and didn't do a thing to check it out.But it is interesting how numbers like this get tossed about in the public with little or no scrutiny.
Now if our government would enforce our border and immigration laws, we could reduce the number even further.
That would be smart policy, instead of penalizing our citizens by trying to violate the 2nd amendment and banning guns.
Border "enforcement" is itself based upon a myth. At the core of addressing problems related to immigration is repeal of trade liberalization.
No, we need to increase funding of our naturalization program and increase the quotas while simultaneously working to expel the illegal immigrants.
That's an inefficient and ultimately untenable course of action. Repeal of trade liberalization will eventually reverse the destabilized state of the Mexican working class.
Fun with statistics. The 90% is obviously inflated. And common sense tells us that 17% is most likely the minimum number. The truth, as always, lies somewhere in between.
But it is interesting how numbers like this get tossed about in the public with little or no scrutiny.
:doh
-- the press gobbled up the number and didn't do a thing to check it out.
Sadly, this is pretty much standard operating procedure for news media.
I miss the days when you had well researched articles that took a full day to write instead of those that have a 3hr deadline. This is the sad side effect of the age of information.
The article itself answers your dilemma. Many guns have the numbers filed off. You can't trace them, so there's no use sending them back to the US, even though they might say "Colt" on the grip. Mexicans like American guns, that's why 90% of the guns they use are American.
The article itself answers your dilemma. Many guns have the numbers filed off. You can't trace them, so there's no use sending them back to the US, even though they might say "Colt" on the grip. Mexicans like American guns, that's why 90% of the guns they use are American.
We're back to economics 101.. why would drug cartel a buy AR15s and Semi-Automatic ak47s from the United States at $1k a pop... when they can buy Russian, Cuban, and Chinese AK47s which are full auto for $250-300 a pop?
Also, can you please enlighten me as to where I can legally purchase an m60, an m4, or a full auto ak47 in our country? Possibly could you also tell me where I can pick up RPGs and grenades? Last time I checked Bass Pro Shop didn't carry them. :roll:
The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S. - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com
Now...why do you suppose the Clinton State Department misrepresented that 90% figure?
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