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The Meals On Wheels Lie Keeps Rolling Along

WCH said:
Same rhetoric the left has been spewing for decades.

"The Republicans are going to starve old people to death" etc.....
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Nah, not going to starve them. Just make them go broke with trumpcare/ryancare/republicare
 
americanwoman said:
Too funny. Here is the actual official statement from Meals on Wheels, which was referenced in the OP article. Take note on what it actually says.

MEALS ON WHEELS AMERICA STATEMENT ON BUDGET BLUEPRINT
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So since we are currently operating on Obama Administration budgets, and federal funding has 'not been keeping pace' with need, and since there was nothing in the headlines about stress or problems with Meals on Wheels and President Obama has not commented on the terrible suffering of seniors re inadequate MOW funding, that pulling back on pork barrel block grants is not likely to snatch food out of the mouth of seniors? Only some block grant monies were going to MOW anyway as the federal government didn't control that. The states have 100% control.

If we have decent state governments, a thriving economy will put plenty of extra money into state coffers and the states, who distribute the block grant money as they see fit, can continue to fund MOW probably more generously than before.

There is absolutely no way that the federal government can start rolling back spending, eliminate the deficit, and start paying down the debt without cutting funding in all agencies all of whom do some necessary or good things.

Yes, the states and local communities have done some good things with the federal block grants, but a whole bunch of it was also spent on things nice to have but not essential.

The honorable thing, IMO, is not to scream that TRUMP IS STARVING OLD PEOPLE!!!!! but rather good people everywhere, especially when their own taxes are lowered, will see to it that programs important to their communities are funded.

We cannot continue to add more than a trillion dollars per year to the national debt as we have been doing for the last eight years or at about half a trillion that was added during GWB's administration. And there is only so much discretionary spending that the government has to work with.

To put it into perspective, Alameda Co. in California (Oakland and suburbs), serves 270,000 meals annually in their MOW program. About 15% of their funding comes from federal block grants because the state chooses to allocate their annual block grant that way. There are 1.64 million people in Alameda County and it would cost about 50 cents annually contributed by each person in Alameda County to restore the federal MOW funding.
 
MrPeanut said:
Meals on Wheels Funding

HHS helps fund Meals on Wheels. Trump is proposing to cut HHS by 16%. Therefore, Trump is proposing to take away some funding from Meals on Wheels. It isn't hard to understand. If he wants to he can come out at anytime and tell HHS they must maintain current funding levels for Meals on Wheels. Argue that Meals on Wheels should be completely voluntary and you might have an argument, but pretending like cutting funds from one of Meals on Wheels's funding sources won't impact the program is ridiculous.
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it is up to the states to disburse the fund however they want. They decide which program under the block grant takes any cuts. Which is why the programs und er that block grant do not depend on it as their only funding. MOW does not need to take a cut. Up to the states.
 
holbritter said:
it is up to the states to disburse the fund however they want. They decide which program under the block grant takes any cuts. Which is why the programs und er that block grant do not depend on it as their only funding. MOW does not need to take a cut. Up to the states.
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So if a state receives less money, and they cut some amount from MOW, it is their fault? That sounds more like trying to take the blame away from the top. Believe it or not, I am not against cuts entirely. I just think that if people are interested in correcting a problem simply cutting some funding isn't an effective solution.
 
holbritter said:
it is up to the states to disburse the fund however they want. They decide which program under the block grant takes any cuts. Which is why the programs und er that block grant do not depend on it as their only funding. MOW does not need to take a cut. Up to the states.
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Then the next time this country want's it's citizens to go to War in The Sand ... leave it up to the States.
 
Cigar said:
I'm counting on Trump Supporters getting everything they Voted for.
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Economy improving the best it has in 10 years, Ya we are. Watching Leftist melt down over Tweets and other manushia is just frosting on that cake.
 
Casca XV said:
Economy improving the best it has in 10 years, Ya we are. Watching Leftist melt down over Tweets and other manushia is just frosting on that cake.
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I've been doing great since 2010, I sure hope you didn't miss out. :lol:
 
Cigar said:
I've been doing great since 2010, I sure hope you didn't miss out. :lol:
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at least 60% and sometimes 70+% of Americans disagree with you, and those polls have only started to change over the last few months.
 
MrPeanut said:
So if a state receives less money, and they cut some amount from MOW, it is their fault? That sounds more like trying to take the blame away from the top. Believe it or not, I am not against cuts entirely. I just think that if people are interested in correcting a problem simply cutting some funding isn't an effective solution.
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Yes, it is the state's fault. There is more than enough waste, in my state at least, that there need not be any reduction to the MOW program. In addition, the MOW is not fully funded by the state either.
 
Cigar said:
Then the next time this country want's it's citizens to go to War in The Sand ... leave it up to the States.
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That really doesn't make any sense. What is wrong with the states taking responsibility for it's citizens? We do pay state income tax (in my state) as well as federal income tax.
 
Cigar said:
Why do you keep saying "the left"?

These are real human being with real needs. These aren't political pawns, these are hungry American Citizens, happen to be Veterans, or Elderly, Poor or all of the above.

Why are so against people who are in need? What exactly are they coasting you?
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Pay attention, this isn't going to cut services at any noticeable level. No one is going to go hungry because of this. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON. But you've been told that this means that people will starve and you are now committed to that narrative, in spite of the fact that's been CLEARLY shown to you that's a lie. What does it take for you to see the truth???
 
MrPeanut said:
Meals on Wheels Funding

HHS helps fund Meals on Wheels. Trump is proposing to cut HHS by 16%. Therefore, Trump is proposing to take away some funding from Meals on Wheels. It isn't hard to understand. If he wants to he can come out at anytime and tell HHS they must maintain current funding levels for Meals on Wheels. Argue that Meals on Wheels should be completely voluntary and you might have an argument, but pretending like cutting funds from one of Meals on Wheels's funding sources won't impact the program is ridiculous.
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Volunteers do most of the work. Food is mostly donated. Whats to take away?
 
faithful_servant said:
Pay attention, this isn't going to cut services at any noticeable level. No one is going to go hungry because of this. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON. But you've been told that this means that people will starve and you are now committed to that narrative, in spite of the fact that's been CLEARLY shown to you that's a lie. What does it take for you to see the truth???
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Something we can't do through the Internet. ;)
 
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