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The Machiavelli Paradox: Why Fools Gain Power

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An interesting watch, explaining why the intelligent don't rise to power and fools do. Basically, intelligence requires nuance, understanding, moral considerations, knowledge of the subject... these qualities make people hesitate in making complicated decisions. If you have a black and white mindset and display confidence and mastery of a subject by sheer simplicity of thought, you're more likely to convince others that you are qualified.

Someone who hums and haws because complex situations and topics require nuance and caveats will never be as successful as someone who bullrushes under the banner of simplistic messaging.

Basically for many humans, complex nuanced reasoning < simple-minded reasoning. In addition, those who are willing to cross ethical lines are far, far more likely to rise to the top than someone who displays empathy.
 
Seems like he's explaing why a good candidate, who explains the world in simple terms, can be such a terrible president who has to function in a complex world where his simple terms not only don't matter, but might backfire altogether.

A candidate might win office by opposing immigration, and prove his bonafides by saying that they're "eating the pets." Even if people recognize its a racist lie, voters are impressed by his commitment to this cause.

But then, the country needs immigrants and getting rid of them all Is actually against our best interest. The issue calls for nuance.
 
Seems like he's explaing why a good candidate, who explains the world in simple terms, can be such a terrible president who has to function in a complex world where his simple terms not only don't matter, but might backfire altogether.

A candidate might win office by opposing immigration, and prove his bonafides by saying that they're "eating the pets." Even if people recognize its a racist lie, voters are impressed by his commitment to this cause.

But then, the country needs immigrants and getting rid of them all Is actually against our best interest. The issue calls for nuance.

Most people have the capacity to understand nuanced concepts, but I think the corporate media and politicians want to keep the population relatively dumbed down on their information diet for reasons that Noam Chomsky extrapolated on.

"Manufacturing Consent" is a book written by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky, published in 1988. It argues that the mass media in the United States serve as ideological institutions that carry out a system-supportive propaganda function, often without overt coercion, by relying on market forces, internalized assumptions, and self-censorship.

The book introduces the propaganda model of communication, which posits that the media operate under five filters: monopolized ownership, advertising as a revenue source, reliance on elite sources, disciplinary actions against dissent, and anti-communist ideology.

Chomsky and Herman use this model to analyze various case studies, including the media's coverage of the Vietnam War and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, to illustrate how the media can manipulate public opinion to support corporate and governmental agendas.
 
Most people have the capacity to understand nuanced concepts, but I think the corporate media and politicians want to keep the population relatively dumbed down on their information diet for reasons that Noam Chomsky extrapolated on.

Faithfully and unveeringly reporting DOGE as an effort to weed out "waste, fraud and abuse" being a good example. They so willingly adopted the GOP's terminology for it.
 
Seems like he's explaing why a good candidate, who explains the world in simple terms, can be such a terrible president who has to function in a complex world where his simple terms not only don't matter, but might backfire altogether.

A candidate might win office by opposing immigration, and prove his bonafides by saying that they're "eating the pets." Even if people recognize its a racist lie, voters are impressed by his commitment to this cause.

But then, the country needs immigrants and getting rid of them all Is actually against our best interest. The issue calls for nuance.
Voters in America have NEVER voted rationally. Emotions have ruled the ballots for over 200 years. Trump is the ultimate proof.....
 
How do you judge intelligence and competency in others? Some people have the ability to make things look easy when in reality they're quite difficult. Look at elite marathon runners. They run 5 minute mile for 26 miles but if you actually see them run they make it seem so effortless. Ever see great guitar players? Same thing. You can convince yourself you can do it to until you try to do it yourself. Same thing goes for leadership and management roles. People think the job's easy and any monkey can do it. They themselves don't understand the details and nuances of the task. So when you see that 'incompetent' person up there in management just maybe he's actually smarter than he looks. Maybe he can focus on first order effect and not get fixated and tied down by third order effects. It's called relevancy. In my book, I don't care how smart you think you are on paper with degrees or fancy job titles, rather it's how well you perform in the real world. There's some luck involved with life but over time the cream always rises to the top.
 
How do you judge intelligence and competency in others? Some people have the ability to make things look easy when in reality they're quite difficult. Look at elite marathon runners. They run 5 minute mile for 26 miles but if you actually see them run they make it seem so effortless. Ever see great guitar players? Same thing. You can convince yourself you can do it to until you try to do it yourself. Same thing goes for leadership and management roles. People think the job's easy and any monkey can do it. They themselves don't understand the details and nuances of the task. So when you see that 'incompetent' person up there in management just maybe he's actually smarter than he looks. Maybe he can focus on first order effect and not get fixated and tied down by third order effects. It's called relevancy. In my book, I don't care how smart you think you are on paper with degrees or fancy job titles, rather it's how well you perform in the real world. There's some luck involved with life but over time the cream always rises to the top.

That performance can work well until a crisis, say a pandemic, comes along.
 
Machiavelli is a fascinating figure, and I have been trying to figure him out ever since we were assigned "The Prince" as a senior in high school.

However, a few years ago I stumbled on to a philosopher, Sir Isaiah Berlin, who has some very interesting essays reflecting on Machiavelli. It was the first time I was introduced to the concept of pluralism in philosophy (what Berlin calls "objective pluralism- which he explains). I was transfixed the first time I read those essays. I finally was able to start to make sense of ethics and it created a useful framework and model from which to think about ethics for me. Later, I learned that this idea of pluralism was also present in many of the classic American pragmatists as well, such as William James and John Dewey. But no one puts it better than Isaiah Berlin (I apologize for quoting at length, but I think this is so insightful that that is necessary):

"What was common to all these outlooks was the belief that solutions to the central problems existed, that one could discover them, and, with sufficient selfless effort, realise them on earth.They all believed that the essence of human beings was to be able to choose how to live: societies could be transformed in the lightof true ideals believed in with enough fervour and dedication...

At some point I realised that what all these views had in common was a Platonic ideal: in the first place that, as in the sciences, all genuine questions must have one true answer and one only, all the rest being necessarily errors; in the second place that there must be a dependable path towards the discovery of these truths; in the third place that the true answers, when found, must necessarily be compatible with one another and form a single whole, for one truth cannot be incompatible with another – that we knew a priori.... True, we might never get to this condition of perfect knowledge – we may be too feeble-witted, or too weak or corruptor sinful, to achieve this. The obstacles, both intellectual and those of external nature, may be too many. Moreover, opinions, as I say, had widely differed about the right path to pursue – some found it in Churches, some in laboratories; some believed in intuition, others in experiment, or in mystical visions, or in mathematical calculation. But even if we could not ourselves reach these true answers, or indeed, the final system that interweaves them all, the answers must exist – else the questions were not real. The answers must be known to someone: perhaps Adam in Paradise knew; perhaps we shall only reach them at the end of days; if men cannot know them, perhaps the angels know; and if not the angels, thenGod knows. The timeless truths must in principle be knowable....

At a certain stage in my reading, I naturally met with the principal works of Machiavelli. They made a deep and lasting impression [8]upon me, and shook my earlier faith. I derived from them not the most obvious teachings – on how to acquire and retain political power, or by what force or guile rulers must act if they are to regenerate their societies...But Machiavelli also sets side by side with this the notion ofChristian virtues – humility, acceptance of suffering, unworldliness, the hope of salvation in an afterlife – and here marks that if, as he plainly himself favours, a State of a Roman type is to be established, these qualities will not promote it: those who live by the precepts of Christian morality are bound to betrampled on by the ruthless pursuit of power on the part of men who alone can re-create and dominate the republic which he wants to see. He does not condemn Christian virtues. He merely points out that the two moralities are incompatible, and he does not recognise an overarching criterion whereby we are enabled to decide the right life for men. The combination of virtù andChristian values is for him an impossibility. He simply leaves youto choose – he knows which he himself prefers.The idea that this planted in my mind was the realisation, which came as something of a shock, that not all the supreme [9] values pursued by mankind now and in the past were necessarily compatible with one another. It undermined my earlier assumption, based on the philosophia perennis, that there could be no conflict between true ends, true answers to the central problems of life...." (see next post)
 
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"What is clear is that values can clash – that is why civilisations are incompatible. They can be incompatible between cultures, or groups in the same culture, or between you and me. You believe in always telling the truth, no matter what: I do not, because I believe that it can sometimes be too painful and too destructive. We can discuss each other’s point of view, we can try to reach common ground, but in the end what you pursue may not be reconcilable with the ends to which I find that I have dedicated my life. Values may easily clash within the breast of a single individual; and it does not follow that, if they do, some must be true and others false.Justice, rigorous justice, is for some people an absolute value, but it is not compatible with what may be no less ultimate values for them – mercy, compassion – as arises in concrete cases.Both liberty and equality are among the primary goals pursued by human beings through many centuries; but total liberty [13] for wolves is death to the lambs, total liberty of the powerful, the gifted, is not compatible with the rights to a decent existence of the weak and the less gifted. An artist, in order to create a masterpiece, may lead a life which plunges his family into misery and squalor to which he is indifferent. We may condemn him and declare that the masterpiece should be sacrificed to human needs, or we may take his side – but both attitudes embody values which for some men or women are ultimate, and which are intelligible to us all if we have any sympathy or imagination or understanding of human beings. Equality may demand the restraint of the liberty of those who wish to dominate; liberty – without some modicum of which there is no choice and therefore no possibility of remaining human as we understand the word – may have to be curtailed in order to make room for social welfare, to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to shelter the homeless, to leave room for the liberty of others, to allow justice or fairness to be exercised....

These collisions of values are of the essence of what they are and what we are. If we are told that these contradictions will be solved in some perfect world in which all good things can be harmonised in principle, then we must answer, to those who say this, that the meanings they attach to the names which for [14] us denote the conflicting values are not ours. We must say that the world in which what we see as incompatible values are not in conflict is a world altogether beyond our ken; that principles which are harmonised in this other world are not the principles with which, in our daily lives, we are acquainted; if they are transformed, it is into conceptions not known to us on earth. But it is on earth that we live, and it is here that we must believe and act. The notion of the perfect whole, the ultimate solution, in which all good things coexist, seems to me to be not merely unattainable– that is a truism – but conceptually incoherent; I do not know what is meant by a harmony of this kind. Some among the GreatGoods cannot live together. That is a conceptual truth. We are doomed to choose, and every choice may entail an irreparable loss.Happy are those who live under a discipline which they accept without question, who freely obey the orders of leaders, spiritual or temporal, whose word is fully accepted as unbreakable law; or those who have, by their own methods, arrived at clear and unshakeable convictions about what to do and what to be that brook no possible doubt. I can only say that those who rest on such comfortable beds of dogma are victims of forms of self induced myopia, blinkers that may make for contentment, but not for understanding of what it is to be human."
-Sir Isaiah Berlin
 
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Voters in America have NEVER voted rationally. Emotions have ruled the ballots for over 200 years. Trump is the ultimate proof.....
I have always said emotions are the problem and people are generally overly emotional and irrational. Logic and reason seems to be an anathema to some.
 
"Moreover he exaggerated wildly: the idealised types of the Periclean Greek or the Roman of the old Republic may be irreconcilablewith the ideal citizen of a Christian commonwealth (supposing such were conceivable), but in practice - above all in history, to which our author went for illustrations if not for evidence - pure types seldom obtain: mixtures and compounds and compromises and forms of communal life that do not fit into easy classifications, but which neither Christians, nor liberal humanists, nor Machiavelli would be compelled by their beliefs to reject, can be conceived without toomuch intellectual difficulty. Still, to attack and inflict lasting damageon a central assumption of an entire civilisation is an achievement of the first order.Machiavelli does not affirm this dualism. He merely takes for granted the superiority of Roman antiqua virtus (which may be maddening to those who do not) over the Christian life as taught by thechurch. He utters a few casual words about what Christianity might have become, but does not expect it to change its actual character.There he leaves the matter. Anyone who believes in Christian morality, and regards the Christian commonwealth as its embodiment, but at the same time largely accepts the validity of Machiavelli's political and psychological analysis and does not reject the secular heritage of Rome- a man in this predicament is faced with a dilemma which, if Machiavelli is right, is not merely unsolved but insoluble. This is the Gordian knot which, according to Vanini and Leibniz, the author of ThePrince had tied - a knot which can be cut but not undone. l Hence the efforts to dilute his doctrines, or interpret them in such a way as to remove their sting.After Machiavelli, doubt is liable to infect all monistic constructions. The sense of certainty that there is somewhere a hidden treasure- the final solution to our ills - and that some path must lead to it (for,l Quoted by Prezzolini, op. cit. (p. 25, note 2 above), English version, pp. 222-3. AGAINST THE CURRENTin principle, it must be discoverable); or else, to alter the image, the conviction that the fragments constituted by our beliefs and habits are all of a jigsaw puzzle, which (since there is an a priori guarantee for this) can, in principle, be solved, so that it is only because of lack of skill or stupidity or bad fortune that we have not so far succeeded in discovering the solution, whereby all interests will be brought into harmony - this fundamental belief of western political thought has been severely shaken. Surely in an age that looks for certainties, this is sufficient to account for the unending efforts, more numerous today than ever, to explain The Prince and the Discourses, or to explain them away?... (cont'd next post)
 
"Moreover he exaggerated wildly: the idealised types of the Periclean Greek or the Roman of the old Republic may be irreconcilable with the ideal citizen of a Christian commonwealth (supposing such were conceivable), but in practice - above all in history, to which our author went for illustrations if not for evidence - pure types seldom obtain: mixtures and compounds and compromises and formsof communal life that do not fit into easy classifications, but which neither Christians, nor liberal humanists, nor Machiavelli would be compelled by their beliefs to reject, can be conceived without too much intellectual difficulty. Still, to attack and inflict lasting damage on a central assumption of an entire civilisation is an achievement ofthe first order.Machiavelli does not affirm this dualism. He merely takes for granted the superiority of Roman antiqua virtus (which may be maddening to those who do not) over the Christian life as taught by the church. He utters a few casual words about what Christianity might have become, but does not expect it to change its actual character. There he leaves the matter. Anyone who believes in Christian morality, and regards the Christian commonwealth as its embodiment, but at the same time largely accepts the validity of Machiavelli's political andpsychological analysis and does not reject the secular heritage of Rome- a man in this predicament is faced with a dilemma which, if Machiavelli is right, is not merely unsolved but insoluble. This is the Gordian knot which, according to Vanini and Leibniz, the author of ThePrince had tied - a knot which can be cut but not undone.l Hence the efforts to dilute his doctrines, or interpret them in such a way as to remove their sting.After Machiavelli, doubt is liable to infect all monistic constructions. The sense of certainty that there is somewhere a hidden treasure- the final solution to our ills - and that some path must lead to it (for, l Quoted by Prezzolini, op. cit. (p. 25, note 2 above), English version, pp. 222-3. AGAINST THE CURRENTin principle, it must be discoverable); or else, to alter the image, the conviction that the fragments constituted by our beliefs and habits are all of a jigsaw puzzle, which (since there is an a priori guarantee for this) can, in principle, be solved, so that it is only because of lack of skill or stupidity or bad fortune that we have not so far succeeded in discovering the solution, whereby all interests will be brought into harmony - this fundamental belief of western political thought has been severely shaken. Surely in an age that looks for certainties, this is sufficient to account for the unending efforts, more numerous today than ever, to explain The Prince and the Discourses, or to explain them away?"
-Sir Isaiah Berlin
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