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The left's latest false narrative

The "or" does not change the plain language. Again you will have to find language that speaks to this mystical imaginary line that accordions back and forth with the size of the crowd waiting. If that is what they wanted to write, then they should have written it that way.

Here is the entire paragraph:

No person shall solicit votes by any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including but not limited to food and drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any person other than election officials discharging their duties, establish any tables or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:
1) within 150' of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is established;
2) within any polling place; or
3) within 25' of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.

Item 1 establishes that their point of reference is "a polling place" and further prescribes "within 150' from the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is established". Item 2 specifies what is not allowed within "any polling place" itself. Item 3 specifically says within 25' of any voter standing in line to vote AT ANY POLLING PLACE.
 
Rawley said:
If they are poll workers, they absolutely could.
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Not within this law. And how would they if they have other duties? This law only allows poll workers to give out material designated by the state/area and to setup unmanned dispensers, not to give out water or other items themselves.
 
Phys251 said:
Oh no, the horrorz! Solving COVID-19, improving infrastructure, taxing those who can afford it, restoring our standing in the world, and such horrible other things!
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Following on the footsteps of Operation Warpspeed, thanks to the Trump administration, a Covid Relief Bill plumb full of pork, opening our borders during a pandemic, having untold children in camps with enforced media blackouts so the people cannot see....true fascists tactics. A president using cheat sheets for a well staged press conference, a vp who looks stoned, laughing continually and forced to listen to the outright lies that we have a problem on the border and not a crisis......yeah it's starting real good.....for the fascists, maybe, but definitely not for Americans.
 
That part in bold is stating that they are standing in line at the polling place, not that they are actually near it, within a certain distance. That reads as the line extending wherever it needs to go. That is how these laws have always been interpreted. This is not a new interpretation here. The only thing new is the restriction that is being made on offering such items to those in line, even without political purpose or setting up such services within that zone. The zone itself has always extended as far as needed, the lines go when such laws are in place. They do not need to be that close to the polling place. You are wrong here.
 

Yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah. You despise voting rights. Despise them.

Too bad. We already got the ACLU, Stacey Abrams, and a whole lot more fighters for justice on this Jim Crow law's ass. You fascism supporters will not stop them!
 

Pathetic, go figure another liberal taking the high ground, looking down on us poor people, who desire integrity in our voter system.....whoa is me.....calling people racists is way past tired of hearing.....is that all you got?
 
redbeer said:
No you're not.....the only thing you are seeing is "water bottles".
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No. I think the law is wrong for anything that can legitimately be "needed" by a person in line if it is simply given without any strings attached or no identifying accompaniments for who is giving it out. There is no reason to make such a restriction.
 
Sorry but they established the basis for the language as "a polling place" and "the outer edge of any building within which a polling place was established".

The only way the language you want to suggest implies otherwise would make any sense is if you consider polling stations where voters vote outdoors. I don't know of any of those anywhere in this country let alone Georgia.

If they wanted to write what you suggest, they should have just written it that way. It would not have been that difficult.
 
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roguenuke said:
Not within this law. And how would they if they have other duties? This law only allows poll workers to give out material designated by the state/area and to setup unmanned dispensers, not to give out water or other items themselves.
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They can stock self serve tables of water.
 
redbeer said:
Pathetic, go figure another liberal taking the high ground
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Redbeer has not addressed a single point I have made all thread. Redbeer has no problem with voter suppression and will run to the polls to elect anyone who advances it.

It was a nice show, but, you know, it just didn't know when to end.
 
True. But this specific incident came up with the SoSGa recommending cases to the AG of GA regarding voter laws that may have been violated. One that was specifically pointed out regarded this group:

Georgia Doesn't Want Voters Waiting in Line to Be Offered Free Food and Drinks

Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has spoken out against “line warming.”
www.foodandwine.com

Their lawyers are pretty sure that due to offering the food/beverages to everyone, regardless of whether they voted or were waiting to vote, that the law, as it was, could not b apply to them (and they are likely correct). However, the specific change to the law would make it illegal for them or anyone else next election to do the same thing (even if a church, as someone else tried to claim was legal still, it isn't).
 
I'm sorry you cannot argue that just because something that is so obviously a basic right is not spelled out verbatim in the constitution then it is not protected. Breathing isn't in there either, nor is pissing. How do other countries get by? Is America so damn thick it needs everything spelled out that way? Stop hiding tyrannical tendencies behind a narrow interpretation of the constitution's wording - nobody is fooled.

Giving out refreshments encourages people to stay in line and exercise their right to vote. That right is protected in the constitution, and attempts to get around it by outlawing any means of facilitating that right are indeed undermining the constitution.

This nonsense about not handing out water will sooner or later get struck down in the federal courts anyway, by constitutional lawyers and judges who know more than a few shitkickers on the internet droning on about ding dongs. Nice try a Georgia, but this one won't last.
 

IDGAF what Republican Raffensperger said. He's as deep in these voter suppression tactics as anyone else here.
 
Rawley said:
They can stock self serve tables of water.
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At the polling place. But that is not where the concerns were. If someone is actually right there at the polling place, they likely don't have that long to wait. Whereas someone 1 mile or 2 down the road, but still in line has likely hours to get inside to vote. It is not likely that they would have poll watchers/workers (officially sanctioned by the state) set up such tables a mile or 2 out and every so many feet in between with water to give out. It would be nice if they did, but there is no provision in there saying they have to or even that they could do so.
 
Phys251 said:
Yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah. You despise voting rights. Despise them.

Too bad. We already got the ACLU, Stacey Abrams, and a whole lot more fighters for justice on this Jim Crow law's ass. You fascism supporters will not stop them!
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What about all those Central American children in camps at the border.....aren't you concerned about them? Your leaders policies caused them to take the long dangerous trip to a camp capable of housing a few hundred to housing thousands....don't you care? Both the president and vp have not taken the time to visit the border.....it's horrendous and could care less, I guess. One would think, that someone in power changing our border laws, would want to see firsthand this tragedy, but who knows the fascists surrounding him are probably telling him they are all okay.....clueless.
 
That was only established regarding that first limitation. That other one still establishes one around each person in line, whether within that 150', 500' away, 2 miles away, they still have a 25' buffer zone around them. This is how this law reads.

They wrote it like I'm describing. I can't help it if you are reading it wrong.
 
You didn’t care then and you do not care now.
 
Phys251 said:
IDGAF what Republican Raffensperger said. He's as deep in these voter suppression tactics as anyone else here.
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I'm not saying it isn't being done to suppress. I'm saying that they want to do it because this and a few other nonprofits that have been working to encourage voting, discourage people from not voting because of tactics such as allowing long ass lines to voting which discourage people found a work around for the "cannot give freebies to encourage people to vote". That loophole was in giving them out to everyone, regardless of whether they could or would vote. For the record, I don't agree with such a law that says you can't encourage people to vote with something like food or water, so long as you do not identify anyone or thing you want them to vote for.
 
Phys251 said:
Redbeer has not addressed a single point I have made all thread. Redbeer has no problem with voter suppression and will run to the polls to elect anyone who advances it.

It was a nice show, but, you know, it just didn't know when to end.
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You have not addressed a single thing from the OP.....all you have done is throw out insults and false accusations....the usual tactic employed by liberals. How about addressing the lie from the left and msm, about the false narrative of "water bottles".
 
Well let's look at this from a different perspective.

Why in the hell should someone have to stand in line to vote so long they need bottled water. I probably couldn't make it because I would have to pee.

I would say there should be a limit for how long people stand in line. If it is over an hour then more polling places have to be opened up.
 
US&THEM said:
You didn’t care then and you do not care now.
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And you know this, how? Actually I care very much about people having to pay cartel members tons of money they don't have to come to America, because our border laws were changed. Once in this country, these still owe the cartel and will be forced into prostitution and selling drugs to pay back the debt. Not to mention the fact of how many young girls were raped along the way to America.....it's sickening that our policies at the border now make this much easier.....it's a damn shame.
 
redbeer said:
I don't know....maybe the State Legislatures do not trust the local boards after the fiasco in 2020, thanks to the democrats.
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What fiasco? You mean the lie that there was extensive electoral fraud during the 2020 election? Still waiting to see evidence of that.
 
redbeer said:
Apparently, this cannot be true, because Georgia voted for Biden and the two democrats in the runoff election.....sure doesn't look like voter suppression to me.



Just silly things that only comes from the minds of liberals....jeesh.
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Please note...the law is for future elections (to try to prevent GA D victories).
 
Got it. Hell or high water, your right to a Ding Dong is protected. No Ding Dongs, no Peace. No Ding Dongs, no Peace. Nice ring to it.
 
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