The Left's Demographic Death Spiral

[ColdHardTruth]

I do, I also know that what they were taught as children stick with them into adulthood.



Those who turn left have fewer offspring. It's a self-correcting mistake.

There is no evidence of this. This just generic right-wing bullshit.

And there you have in that chart the collapse of the Left's birthrate and the stability of the Conservatives. If anything the Conservative birth rate has ticked up.

No evidence.

It's always amusing to watch you flounder around trying to make a counter argument and failing, Threegoofs.

More nonsensical right-wing bullshit.

 

[TobyOne]

The left is a culture of death. Literally childless cat ladies and beta males. Thats all they have left.

 

[Greenbeard]

Just looks like another manifestation of the income sort that's been happening, with higher income voters drifting toward the Dems and lower income voters getting more comfortable voting Republican than in the past.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Man I never knew conservativeness was a genetic trait


Perhaps the op needs to realize liberalism of conservativism are ideals that change over time for most people ( or at least those with exposure to different ideas)

Overnight most atheists in the US had religious parents, with children leaving religion as they gained access to different ideas

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Conservatives are raising the majority of the nations children.

And this changed when?

Is political beliefs a genetic traits, or a learned one?

We're not most parents through the last 200 years in the US generally conservative, yet children as they grow up adopt different ideals than their parents.

So unless differing political ideals are banned from being taught or presented on any media, kids will become liberal

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

You are another aspect of why the future belongs to conservatives.

That brand of nihilism ends up depressing the population that buys into it, and low birthrates are the result.

Japan is conservative and it is dying

Iran is ultra conservative and it is dying

Korea is conservative and it is dying

Birth rates are low anywhere woman have rights and freedom to be more than a homework or farm hand

 

[The Brad Dad]

I was wondering what brought this thread on. Of course it was Charlie Kirk

 

[jmotivator]

I was wondering what brought this thread on. Of course it was Charlie Kirk

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Narrator: It wasn't Charlie Kirk.

 

[jmotivator]

Man I never knew conservativeness was a genetic trait

It's not, it is a learned way of processing the world around you and it's taught by conservative parents. That's my point.

 

[The Brad Dad]

It's not, it is a learned way of processing the world around you and it's taught by conservative parents. That's my point.

And conservatism is dead with young people. Young people have trans friends. Young people do not care about your generation's obsession with sexual identity. Young people do not agree with conservatives that climate change is a hoax.

You're just wish casting that polices which are super unpopular all over the country will suddenly become super popular due to breeding.

 

[BirdinHand]

Weird conclusions being drawn by MAGAs in this thread.

Every generation has been trending MORE liberal. Church attendance is down across ALL religions and demographics in the US, and has been consistently dropping. Every generation of voters has trended more left leaning. Every generation has trended more left leaning in social issues.

I don’t see a single data point that supports assertions being made by MAGAs otherwise. Just wishcasting.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Weird conclusions being drawn by MAGAs in this thread.

Every generation has been trending MORE liberal. Church attendance is down across ALL religions and demographics in the US, and has been consistently dropping. Every generation of voters has trended more left leaning. Every generation has trended more left leaning in social issues.

I don’t see a single data point that supports assertions being made by MAGAs otherwise. Just wishcasting.

Charlie Kirk told them. That's the data point. There you go.

 

[BirdinHand]

It's not, it is a learned way of processing the world around you and it's taught by conservative parents. That's my point.

And how many previously MORE conservative parents have also been influenced towards more progressive “left” ideals and beliefs by their children?

How many parents that thought being gay was a sin…found themselves with a gay child they accept? And now perhaps advocate for and vote in support of - as one example?

 

[Elmo]

I came across this chart on X this morning and it's pretty interesting.

It really depicts the slow demise of the left movement in the US. The future belongs to conservatism... or, more accurate, Conservative Parents.

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No doubt a large contributor to the stable conservative Right birth rate comes from largely socially conservative immigrants to the US, be they Central American Catholics, or Middle Eastern Muslims, both groups seeing large families as almost a religious sacrament, while the left seems to treat chemical/physical castration and abortion as a sacrament and pregnancy as a disease.

In the end the leftist reared parents will dwindle, are dwindling, while the conservative based families flourish.

And I don't see how the Left fixes this death spiral without abandoning most of their remaining tent pole social positions... in other words, to save itself the left will need to move more right.

Bookmarking this thread to come back and laugh at it after thr midterms

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

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It's not, it is a learned way of processing the world around you and it's taught by conservative parents. That's my point.

And an idiotic one


What happens when the kids get exposed to different ideal? Unless they stay in the same community, with the same friends and family for 40+ years there is a strong chance of conservative parents having kids that become liberal or vice versa.

Heck once kids leave their parents and move out of the community many tend to change religious status, ( change religions bor become agnostic/ atheist)

Only those who can't change due to social pressure stay the same as their parents. Hence the growth in non religious status as people move out of the community they grew up in or move to larger communities where the church is not a center of social interaction in society

 

[BirdinHand]

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And an idiotic one


What happens when the kids get exposed to different ideal? Unless they stay in the same community, with the same friends and family for 40+ years there is a strong chance of conservative parents having kids that become liberal or vice versa.

Heck once kids leave their parents and move out of the community many tend to change religious status, ( change religions bor become agnostic/ atheist)

Only those who can't change due to social pressure stay the same as their parents. Hence the growth in non religious status as people move out of the community they grew up in or move to larger communities where the church is not a center of social interaction in society

Hence the push by MAGAs to eliminate any sort of outside influences on kids.

They truly do seem to believe that they get to control who their kids become and what they become.

They don’t want to raise kids to grow up and become the best *individual* selves they can be.

They want to “mold” their kids into some ideal THEY have for them.

It’s really quite perverted and self centered thinking.

 

[venice_ca]

Religion is dying out. Fewer people go to church.

Liberals don't have to have more children. Immigrants are a significant portion of society. They lean more left than right. No wonder the right wants to kill immigration. Their current big experiment is going to backfire when it pushes us into recession. America will gain new respect for immigrants. Immigration is what built this country and what will rebuild it.

California has the largest foreign-born population in the U.S. and has for some time. The state’s politics have not been shifting rightwards as immigrants become citizens.

• More than half (55%) of California’s immigrants were naturalized US citizens in 2023. This share has increased consistently since 1990, when only 31% of immigrants were naturalized.
• The Pew Research Center estimates that 1.8 million immigrants in California were undocumented in 2022, down from 2.8 million in 2007; that is, the undocumented share fell to 17% from 28%.
• In 2022, 83% of immigrants were either citizens or had some other legal residency status.

Before the false narrative that Mexican immigrants are welcomed into California to keep Democrats in power is introduced, the immigrant community is more diverse that the simplistic narrative coming from the right.

In the last 10 years the number of arriving Asian immigrants has overtaken those from Latin America.

• The vast majority of California’s immigrants were born in Latin America (49%) or Asia (41%).
• Immigrants in California come from dozens of countries; the leading countries of origin are Mexico (3.8 million), the Philippines (821,136), China (795,450), India (574,498), and Vietnam (525,455).
• Among immigrants who arrived between 2014 and 2023, 46% were born in Asia, while 38% were born in Latin America.

Immigrants in California

California is home to more than 10 million immigrants, comprising over a quarter of the state’s population and a third of prime-working-age adults. The vast majority of foreign-born residents are citizens or have some other legal residency status.

www.ppic.org

Recently I received information from my healthcare provider in the So Cal area. Included was a listing of languages available for non English speakers:

Arabic, Armenian, Chinese (I’ve seen others where the choice of Mandarin or Cantonese is offered), Farsi, Hindi, Hmong, Japanese, Khmer, Korean, Laotian, Mien, Navajo, Punjabi, Russian, Spanish, Tagalog, Thai, Ukrainian, and Vietnamese.

 

[aociswundumho]

Overpopulation is a problem.

No it isn't. People aren't a liability, they're the source of every innovation, every invention, every bit of wealth creation in history. Fewer people means fewer minds solving problems. The malthusians like you have been wrong for over 200 years.

 

[aociswundumho]

You know kids generally rebel against parents political beliefs when they grow up, right?

The evidence says otherwise:

Most U.S. parents pass along their religion and politics to their children

Most parents pass along religious and political affiliations, and they do so at similarly high rates, according to a new analysis of several surveys.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Ikari]

I came across this chart on X this morning and it's pretty interesting.

It really depicts the slow demise of the left movement in the US. The future belongs to conservatism... or, more accurate, Conservative Parents.

View attachment 67586676

No doubt a large contributor to the stable conservative Right birth rate comes from largely socially conservative immigrants to the US, be they Central American Catholics, or Middle Eastern Muslims, both groups seeing large families as almost a religious sacrament, while the left seems to treat chemical/physical castration and abortion as a sacrament and pregnancy as a disease.

In the end the leftist reared parents will dwindle, are dwindling, while the conservative based families flourish.

And I don't see how the Left fixes this death spiral without abandoning most of their remaining tent pole social positions... in other words, to save itself the left will need to move more right.

Actual conservatives, or MAGA?

 

[Gordy327]

No it isn't. People aren't a liability, they're the source of every innovation, every invention, every bit of wealth creation in history. Fewer people means fewer minds solving problems. The malthusians like you have been wrong for over 200 years.

Of course its a problem. Its quite obvious. What does population have to do with innovation? There have been innovations since humans moved out of caves and population was lower. What's your point?

 

[aociswundumho]

Of course its a problem. Its quite obvious.

Then explain what the problem is.