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The latest democratic cheat trick

To the bolded: Why not?
 
poweRob said:
:lamo

More conspiracy lies to make excuses for trump's and the GOP's impending loss.
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Jeesh....either a conspiracy nut or a racist with you people.....:moon:....kiss that...well, you know where.
 

Why do you think everyone gets a ballot? Do you not understand that people have to register to get that ballot sent to them?
 
Don't know the history of ballot counting and harvesting

But the thing that tells me it is very bad...more than probably anything is

The RS don't like it


The D's do


All u need to know...
 
I do not believe the bolded is the predominate reason for this charade. The primary reason is to continue voting suppression.
 

Then what is currently stopping governments from committing electoral fraud right now with our current system? As it currently stands, we are already placing a large amount of trust that the government is counting our votes and not just disregarding them entirely and spitting out numbers that at least sound realistic. There is nothing inherently dangerous about making voting more accessible.

If anything, centralizing and limiting the access to voting provides governments more control to disrupt and commit electoral fraud. As we saw from the Democratic primaries in 2016 and 2020, voting stations would be purposefully undermanned, underequipped, close early, or sent faulty voting equipment if the district polled unfavorably for their preferred candidate.

redbeer said:
Just what is wrong with showing up to vote, show and ID, finding your name on the roll, and then procede to vote in private.....
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In Modern America, taking time away from your life to go to a voting booth is becoming more and more difficult each year. During these primaries, there was several stories and instances where people broke down crying after waiting 4-5 hours only to leave due to a variety of reasons, most of them being employment.

redbeer said:
is this immoral to you people, or what?
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I think it's immoral to deny people a right to feel like they participated in their governance.
 
Chomsky said:
I do not believe the bolded is the predominate reason for this charade. The primary reason is to continue voting suppression.
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It's a twofer. But this is their biggest fear.

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So, when trump gets his fat arse kicked in November this is the excuse you guys are going to run with?
Geeez, sorry but everyone else has already figured out the trump game plan here.
Won't work and they will forcibly remove him if that what it takes, maybe some nice treason charges to go along with it.
 
poweRob said:
I've already voted by mail in ballot for the primary here. :lol:

Can't wait until I get my general election mail in ballot.
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To be honest its really easy for me to vote in person. Our polling place is the firehouse less than 2 miles down the road, In 18+ years I never had to wait more than a few minutes. Spoiled. But I will use the mail in this time. Most of those that run the polling stations are older / retired and shouldn't be subject to getting the virus.
 
azgreg said:
Meanwhile the Trump campaign is encouraging people to vote by mail in Pennsylvania.

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How do Trumpers even live with themselves the way they let Trump abuse them? I swear it's Stockholm Syndrome.
 


Get off fantasy island and back to the here and now, will ya? This is a preventative measure to ensure that peoples votes are counted accurately, honestly, and securely.....do you have a problem with that? Even republicans know how to cheat in mail in ballots....it's easy using ballot harvesters....and this is what the democrats and MSM are pushing. It's a disgrace to those who have fought and died for this country to so happlessly don't care about the validity of elections, imo.
 

Please share with us all of the documented mail in vote fraud, show your work. You blindly accept your cult leader blatantly lying to you.
 
Chomsky said:
How do Trumpers even live with themselves the way they let Trump abuse them? I swear it's Stockholm Syndrome.
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Can you imagine waking up every morning, pouring your coffee, turning on your favorite device for the internet and saying to yourself: "What in the hell will I have to spin today?"

It must be exhausting.
 
Chomsky said:
How do Trumpers even live with themselves the way they let Trump abuse them? I swear it's Stockholm Syndrome.
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Jeesh, I am not saying to do away with mail in ballots....they have their place for those who will not be in town to vote on election day....this is perfectly fine. The problem comes in when either party uses political operatives to collect ballots.....this is far too shady....can't you see that or has the left totally blinded your good senses?
 
beefheart said:
Please share with us all of the documented mail in vote fraud, show your work. You blindly accept your cult leader blatantly lying to you.
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Apparently you are not taking the time to read any of the articles posted thus far in this OP.....just keep believing what they tell you and keep your head in the sand.
 
azgreg said:
Can you imagine waking up every morning, pouring your coffee, turning on your favorite device for the internet and saying to yourself: "What in the hell will I have to spin today?"

It must be exhausting.
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LOL to the nth degree.....we have listened to the biggest "spin" in American political history for the last four years......get help.
 

BS, there is Very Little voter fraud in this Nation, if there were lots of it the right, or left, could point it out. It is just a BS way to try and reduce the damage the Donald knows is coming. Fear not, it won't make a difference, trump is not going to win either the EC or Popular vote he is toast and he will take down the Senate with him. Time is running out, trump is a Failure as a President, and as a Man, he will go down in History, as one of the Worst Presidents the US has even made the mistake in electing. One term and Out
 
redbeer said:
LOL to the nth degree.....we have listened to the biggest "spin" in American political history for the last four years......get help.
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Trumpsters are a funny lot.
 
That might be fair. We made that illegal in my state, too.

But you wrote something different in your OP. You wrote the bolded:

There's 5 states that do all mail-in voting. 10% of the country. And, it seems you just categorized their elections as 'shady dealings'.
 


The lemmings speak....follow your leaders off the cliff. Instead of just believing what they tell you......it doesn't take too much effort to check for yourself.....lest laziness is in your dna.
 
redbeer said:
Apparently you are not taking the time to read any of the articles posted thus far in this OP.....just keep believing what they tell you and keep your head in the sand.
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Your sources are crap. Arizona has had vote by mail for a long time, no fraud. Same with other states. You just don't want voting to be easy and fair.
 



I just picked out on citation as given in the Heritage Foundation link:

“In 2011 in Troy, New York, a local political operative was convicted for submitting fraudulent absentee ballots”

The case involved 8 actual ballots alleged to have been illegally tampered with. The case resulted in one single conviction:

Democrat admits role in voter fraud case

THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE OF MAIL BALLOT FRAUD, PERIOD. NO DIFF THAN ANY OTHER VOTER FRAUD, WHICH IS ALSO INSIGNIFICANT.

MOST OF THE CASES OF MAIL BALLOT HARVESTING WERE LEGAL, AFTER WHICH LAWS WERE CHANGED. AFFECTED VOTERS WERE NOT COMPLAINING. THEY WANTED THE HELP IN VOTE SELECTION. IT WAS LEGAL.
 
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