Conservatives at crossroads on gay marriage - Alexander Burns and Maggie Haberman - POLITICO.com
Excellent news.
I favor this not so much because of its policy outcome - I fully believe liberty can be attained completely without the input of the Republican Party at all - but because it may lead to a new kind of American conservatism.
There will be a 'populist' revolt over this, no doubt. The Establishment will be called weak and irrelevant and tyrannical (oh, how like the hippies modern 'conservatives' are).
But maybe this time the Republican Establishment will behave conservatively and crush the populists utterly without mercy. Conservatism is hierarchical; it is deference; it is will-to-power. Populism - anti-elitism - is fundamentally contradictory to the true essence of conservatism, which is elitist, thoroughly individualist - profoundly pagan - noblesse obligé.
Fewer Reagans, more Bismarcks.
Conservatives are not at a crossroads, Republicans maybe, but not true conservatives.
Conservatives are not at a crossroads, Republicans maybe, but not true conservatives.
Independent of the issue of SSM, I think the old school conservatives are going to try to crush the Tea Party in 2016. Until then, they just need to hold onto the House anyway they can, but I expect an all out war come January 2015 and running through the Prezzy Pick.
I want to see American conservatism completely remade, after the fashion of the radically traditionalist, Romantic, anti-democratic, anti-popular, anti-Christian German Revolutionary Conservatism. A pipe dream because of the influence of Southern heavy sweaters, but obe can dream.
A pipe dream maybe, but the thing is, I expect that deep in the conservative soul is this very wish. The politics don't allow it, but conservative rhetoric constantly bends toward elitism, contempt for working people, a fawning love of the rich, and a real disgust with democracy. So maybe your wish will come true as the GOP disintegrates into electoral irrelevancy.
The No True Scotsman fallacy always rears its head in this kinds of debates. When the tea party is finished, there will only be 6 true conservatives left in the nation. Thank God
Conservatives at crossroads on gay marriage - Alexander Burns and Maggie Haberman - POLITICO.com
Excellent news.
I favor this not so much because of its policy outcome - I fully believe liberty can be attained completely without the input of the Republican Party at all - but because it may lead to a new kind of American conservatism.
There will be a 'populist' revolt over this, no doubt. The Establishment will be called weak and irrelevant and tyrannical (oh, how like the hippies modern 'conservatives' are).
But maybe this time the Republican Establishment will behave conservatively and crush the populists utterly without mercy. Conservatism is hierarchical; it is deference; it is will-to-power. Populism - anti-elitism - is fundamentally contradictory to the true essence of conservatism, which is elitist, thoroughly individualist - profoundly pagan - noblesse obligé.
Fewer Reagans, more Bismarcks.
Of course,I am pretty sure Bismark was a bisexual strongman who created government run medicine. Yes,a great conservative was he.
You're conflating American Conservatism which is based decidedly on christian individuality and republic ideals with European Conservatism which has its roots in the more ancient rite of monarch and tribal-isms.
A pipe dream maybe, but the thing is, I expect that deep in the conservative soul is this very wish. The politics don't allow it, but conservative rhetoric constantly bends toward elitism, contempt for working people, a fawning love of the rich, and a real disgust with democracy. So maybe your wish will come true as the GOP disintegrates into electoral irrelevancy.
The Republican base could use more elitism, if you ask me. Ranting about the establishment, being disproportionately disdainful of intellectuals, politicians, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and lobbyists is just silly nonsense.
Precisely so. And, I'd argue, the older European form of conservative thought is far more intellectually stimulating, far more emotionally exhilarating, and, in the final analysis, more philosophically sound than the ad hoc go-go-Reaganaut balderdash.
I would be likely to agree with you. The Reagan Era, with the harbinger of the NeoCons is the absolutely worst thing that could have happened to the Conservative Movement here in America.
It diminished the accompanying sense of Duty that went along with all those dollars and took the notion of a strong military presence a bit too literally.
I think it was you, saying libertarianism and conservatism are incompatible but I think the main vein which makes them such is laissez faire economics. Which again I think you had made brief mention.
Distributism, which is my economic mode of choice, (well, an alloy of sorts which pairs it with some fundamentals of Proudhon's mutualism) is by far a more compatible economic mode for the conservative.
I want to see American conservatism completely remade, after the fashion of the radically traditionalist, Romantic, anti-democratic, anti-popular, anti-Christian German Revolutionary Conservatism. A pipe dream because of the influence of Southern heavy sweaters, but obe can dream.
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