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yeah, that makes sense if you choose to ignore the fact that he wants to rebuild Russia to the Soviet era.
yeah, that makes sense if you choose to ignore the fact that he wants to rebuild Russia to the Soviet era.This progression over that time is sure to have been welcomed by Putin. <sarcasm>
That's kinda the point I'm raising. This creeping expansion and that Putin perceives this as a threat and / or justification for his Ukrainian adventure.
Do you suppose that if NATO hadn't been steadily growing like this, that Putin would have invaded Ukraine?
I'm leaning into not, considering how much it's costing him, and him knowing it'd cost him that much.
Hmm. This map and history would seems to differ . . .
. . . also showing the creeping progression. Little wonder that Russia and Putin feel threatened by this creeping NATO expansion (you have to view it a bit more from their perspective).
The bullshit is your denial.Party of Putin?
Which US political party hawked on the baseless 'Russia Collusion' BS for how many years again?
Sure, there may be some disagreements in continuing to pitch endless money down the corrupt black hole known as the Ukraine.
I don't see how a disagreement on these financial outlays make a differing opinion / political position equivalent to 'Party of Putin', considering that it would be in Putin's interests the continued political division and divisiveness in Putin's interests (this ridiculous accusation furthering exactly that), and this also being the goal in Russia's meddling in US politics since before the start of the Cold War.
This progression over that time is sure to have been welcomed by Putin. <sarcasm>
That's kinda the point I'm raising. This creeping expansion and that Putin perceives this as a threat and / or justification for his Ukrainian adventure.
Do you suppose that if NATO hadn't been steadily growing like this, that Putin would have invaded Ukraine?
I'm leaning into not, considering how much it's costing him, and him knowing it'd cost him that much.
Because people want answers to what the hell we are doing in Ukraine
Most of it stays here. It goes to the Defense companies to purchase weapons to be sent to Ukraine. And it adds to our economy because it not only guarantees job security for current workers, but some companies have expanded their operations (meaning "hired more people").where is our hard earned tax dollars going
what is the course of the war and the plan for winning
and getting out?
Hmm. This map and history would seems to differ . . .
. . . also showing the creeping progression. Little wonder that Russia and Putin feel threatened by this creeping NATO expansion (you have to view it a bit more from their perspective).
Of course you're going to disagree. You support the exact people he's talking about.What a load of BS. If any party in this country has a problem with supporting America, it's democrats. Because people want answers to what the hell we are doing in Ukraine, where is our hard earned tax dollars going, what is the course of the war and the plan for winning and getting out? Biden has spent the war crying about possibility of escalation, (who is Putin's buddy) and refusing to give Ukraine many of the weapons they actually need to conduct the war. Fighter jets, longer range weapons, and abrams tanks.
It is not sensible to poke a wounded, cornered animal with a sharp stick, further provoking them.yeah, that makes sense if you choose to ignore the fact that he wants to rebuild Russia to the Soviet era.
Here's my thousand words in response:The GOP Is the Party of Putin
The Russians’ takeover of the Republican party is arguably the most successful influence operation in history.
“RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA HAS MADE ITS WAY into the United States, unfortunately, and it’s infected a good chunk of my party’s base.” That acknowledgement from Michael McCaul, Republican chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, was echoed a few days later by Michael Turner, the chairman of the Intelligence Committee. “It is absolutely true, we see, directly coming from Russia, attempts to mask communications that are anti-Ukraine and pro-Russia messages, some of which we even hear being uttered on the House floor.” Among the falsehoods that GOP members of Congress are repeating is the notion that the Ukraine war is actually a battle between NATO and Russia. “Of course it is not,” Turner told CNN. “To the extent that this propaganda takes hold, it makes it more difficult for us to really see this as an authoritarian versus democracy battle.”
What makes it even more difficult to see reality plainly is the presence in the GOP of dunderheads like Sen. Tommy Tuberville, who gushed to an Alabama radio show that “Putin is on top of his game,” while scorning U.S. media accounts of Russian behavior. “The propaganda media machine over here, they sell anything they possibly can to go after Russia.” Tuberville may be the dimmest Putin booster on the Hill, but he is hardly lonely.
It has been two months since the Senate passed, in a 70–29 vote (including 22 Republican yes votes), a $95 billion foreign aid bill that included $60 billion for Ukraine. The Republican-controlled House, by contrast, has been paralyzed. Stories leak out that Speaker Mike Johnson, apparently influenced by high-level briefings he’s received since capturing the gavel, has changed his posture and wants to approve the aid. But Johnson leads, or is at least is the titular congressional chief, of a party that contains a passionate “Putin wing,” and so he dithers. This week, Volodomyr Zelensky has warned that Ukraine will lose the war if the aid is not approved. Yet Johnson is heading not to Kyiv but to Mar-a-Lago.
Pause on that for a moment. The Republican party is now poised to let a brave, democratic ally be defeated by the power that the last GOP presidential nominee save one called “without question, our number one greatest geopolitical foe.” One member of Congress has sworn to introduce a resolution to vacate the speaker’s chair if Johnson puts aid for Ukraine on the floor. And the entertainment wing of conservatism—most egregiously Tucker Carlson—has gone into full truckling mode toward the ex-KGB colonel in the Kremlin.
It’s worth exploring how the Republican party, the party of “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall,” became the party that now credulously traffics in blatant Russian disinformation while it flirts with betraying an important ally—along with all of its principles.
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It is amazing to me that Republican "patriotism" was so shallow it was forded by a New York City flimflam man.
The bullshit is your denial.
What do you call that?
Your article talks about evidence, but doesn't link to it.A non-issue. So what? Of what value was that campaign info? Any at all?
This is not the 'Russian Collusion' you are looking for, or should be looking for.
As secretary of State, Hillary Clinton worked with Russian leaders, including Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-President Dmitri Medvedev, to create U.S. technology partnerships with Moscow’s version of Silicon Valley, a sprawling high-tech campus known as Skolkovo.Clinton’s handprint was everywhere on the 2009-2010 project, the tip of a diplomatic spear to reboot U.S.-Russian relations after years of hostility prompted by Vladimir Putin’s military action against the former Soviet republic and now U.S. ally Georgia.A donor to the Clinton Foundation, Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, led the Russian side of the effort, and several American donors to the Clinton charity got involved. Clinton’s State Department facilitated U.S. companies working with the Russian project, and she personally invited Medvedev to visit Silicon Valley.The collaboration occurred at the exact same time Bill Clinton made his now infamous trip to Russia to pick up a jaw-dropping $500,000 check for a single speech.The former president’s trip secretly raised eyebrows inside his wife’s State Department, internal emails show.That’s because he asked permission to meet Vekselberg, the head of Skolkovo, and Arkady Dvorkovich, a senior official of Rosatom, the Russian nuclear giant seeking State’s permission to buy Uranium One, a Canadian company with massive U.S. uranium reserves.Years later, intelligence documents show, both the Skolkovo and Uranium One projects raised serious security concerns.. . .“Implicit in Russia’s development of Skolkovo is a critical question — a question that Russia may be asking itself — why bother spying on foreign companies and government laboratories if they will voluntarily hand over all the expertise Russia seeks?”A year later, the FBI went further and sent letters warning several U.S. technology companies that had become entangled with Skolkovo that they risked possible espionage. And an agent in the bureau’s Boston office wrote an extraordinary op-ed to publicize the alarm.Skolkovo “may be a means for the Russian government to access our nation’s sensitive or classified research development facilities and dual-use technologies with military and commercial application,” Assistant Special Agent in Charge Lucia Ziobro wrote in the Boston Business Journal.The FBI had equal concern about Rosatom’s acquisition of Uranium One. An informer named William Douglas Campbell had gotten inside the Russian nuclear giant in 2009 and gathered evidence that Rosatom’s agents in the United States were engaged in a racketeering scheme involving kickbacks, extortion and bribery.The case for Russia collusion … against the Democrats
Congressional investigators have painstakingly pieced together evidence that shows the Clinton researchers had extensive contact with Russians.thehill.com
This a lot more value than 'campaign info', don't you think?
You might want to ask why so many Democrats were so enthused about raising Trump Russia Collusion hoax, and so anxious that it be believed. Hiding something were they?
Your article talks about evidence, but doesn't link to it.
Putin talking point.Sure, there may be some disagreements in continuing to pitch endless money down the corrupt black hole known as the Ukraine.
He wasn't a wounded animal until he invaded.It is not sensible to poke a wounded, cornered animal with a sharp stick, further provoking them.
Setting the table for his withdrawal form the treatyHere's my thousand words in response:
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IF he were pro-Russia why the hell would he encourage/browbeat NATO members to spend more on defense?
More Russian talking pointsDemocrats are the party of Putin. Trying to put an opposing Presidental candidate in jail. Suppressing freedom of speech by collusion with social media. Obamas suppression of freedom of the press.
More Russian talking points
What facts? You have picked a side.....Russia.Facts don’t have a side.
More Putin talking points - view it from the war criminal's perspective.Hmm. This map and history would seems to differ . . .
. . . also showing the creeping progression. Little wonder that Russia and Putin feel threatened by this creeping NATO expansion (you have to view it a bit more from their perspective).
What facts? You have picked a side.....Russia.
Exactly. You’re pro Russian and anti-American. Weird how conservatives switched it up.Your read is this is support for Putin's move?
Or that it's acknowledgement that it's a good move on Putin's part to further his agenda?
I'm reading the latter.
Meanwhile, the whole cause of the Ukraine invasion, Ukraine joining NATO, continues to be furthered by Biden.
Biden assures Zelenskiy that NATO membership in Ukraine's hands, Kyiv says
U.S. President Joe Biden assured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Kyiv's bid to join the NATO military alliance was in its own hands, Zelenskiy's chief of staff said after the two leaders spoke on Thursday.www.reuters.com
You don't think that a NATO nation on Russia's border is viewed as a threat to Russia by the Russians?
Problematic Biden foreign policy having been forewarned:
Former Obama Defense Secretary and CIA chief Robert Gates“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f… things up.” Obama
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