I have been watching for several days to see when the GISS would release their June temperatures.
The Satellite data sets show the post El Nino temperatures drop to very close to the pre El Nino temperatures,
and I wanted to see if the GISS matched this.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
So June 2016 at .79 °C is just .01 °C ahead of 2015, so the last vestiges of the El Nino
appear to be gone.
This means the average monthly temperature has fallen a full .54 °C since the peak of the El Nino
in Feb.
Still the warmest June in recorded history.
It wouldn't be if they didn't downward revise past records.
Got any data to back that up?
Got any data to back that up?
That is very subjective since .01 C is completely within the noise range.Still the warmest June in recorded history.
In June/July 2015, GISS changed the source of the data, here is the comparison of the 1979 to 2014.Got any data to back that up?
I have been watching for several days to see when the GISS would release their June temperatures.
The Satellite data sets show the post El Nino temperatures drop to very close to the pre El Nino temperatures,
and I wanted to see if the GISS matched this.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
So June 2016 at .79 °C is just .01 °C ahead of 2015, so the last vestiges of the El Nino
appear to be gone.
This means the average monthly temperature has fallen a full .54 °C since the peak of the El Nino
in Feb.
It wouldn't be if they didn't downward revise past records.
Thats pretty sad.
Thats eight months in a row of record temperatures, meaning each of those months have been the hottest months on record.
Looks to me like another firm datapoint for definitive AGW.
Its a spike on an upward trend, and if the last big El Nino tells us anything, its probably about close to the 'new normal', as ecosystems strain to deal with the change, and humans deal with the ever increasing extreme weather fallout.
I do find it a bit ironic that longview is trumpeting the fact that El Nino 'appears to be gone', but doesn't think of the fact that even though its 'gone', we still have record breaking temperatures.
I am guessing you think a delts of .01 C from last June means something, when the month to month fall since sinceThats pretty sad.
Thats eight months in a row of record temperatures, meaning each of those months have been the hottest months on record.
Looks to me like another firm datapoint for definitive AGW.
Its a spike on an upward trend, and if the last big El Nino tells us anything, its probably about close to the 'new normal', as ecosystems strain to deal with the change, and humans deal with the ever increasing extreme weather fallout.
I do find it a bit ironic that longview is trumpeting the fact that El Nino 'appears to be gone', but doesn't think of the fact that even though its 'gone', we still have record breaking temperatures.
I am guessing you think a delts of .01 C from last June means something, when the month to month fall since since
February has been .54 C
When you say there is a string of records, which are known to be caused from a weather event,It means its the hottest June on record, which follows a string of the last eight months which are also records.
Im sure you are dying to champion the next few months when the temperatures are merely at the low end of two standard deviations high..
Past threads about corrections in the record.
Not doing your homework, for what you didn't read.
In June/July 2015, GISS changed the source of the data, here is the comparison of the 1979 to 2014.
The was the J-D columns.
giss_old new
1978 6 8
1979 12 17
1980 23 28
1981 28 33
1982 9 13
1983 27 31
1984 12 16
1985 8 12
1986 15 19
1987 29 34
1988 35 40
1989 24 29
1990 39 44
1991 38 42
1992 19 23
1993 21 24
1994 28 32
1995 43 46
1996 33 35
1997 45 48
1998 61 63
1999 40 42
2000 40 42
2001 53 55
2002 61 63
2003 60 62
2004 51 55
2005 65 69
2006 59 64
2007 63 66
2008 49 54
2009 59 65
2010 66 71
2011 55 60
2012 58 63
2013 61 66
2014 67 75
When you say there is a string of records, which are known to be caused from a weather event,
it reduces the strength of your argument.
The El Nino caused a massive shift in temperatures.
The El Nino produced more warming in 6 months than in the preceding 20 years,
Thankfully is is a temporary weather event, and temperatures are returning back to the normal warming trend.
It wouldn't be if they didn't downward revise past records.
Your the one making the claim... so its your homework.
Got a link for that?
Got a link for that?
Yr LV old My old LV new GISS current
1998 61 61.5 63 63
2005 65 66 69 69
2010 66 66 71 71
2014 67 68 75 74
In June/July 2015, GISS changed the source of the data, here is the comparison of the 1979 to 2014.
The was the J-D columns.
giss_old new
1978 6 8
1979 12 17
...
2013 61 66
2014 67 75
It wouldn't be if they didn't downward revise past records.
The current one is the GISS,Got a link for that?
June 13, 2015: NOAA's NCEI (formerly NCDC) switched from v3.2.2 to the new release v3.3.0 of the adjusted GHCN, which is our basic source. This upgrade included filling some gaps in a few station records and fixing some small bugs in the homogenization procedure. NCEI's description of those changes is available here. One of the impacts was removing some data that the GISS procedure had always eliminated and the list of GISS corrections was correspondingly reduced. Hence the (insignificant) impact on the GISS analysis was slightly different from the impact described in that document. The changes produced a decrease of 0.006°C/decade for the 1880 to 2014 trend of the annual mean land surface air temperature rather than the 0.003°C/decade increase reported by NCEI. Both are substantially less than the margin of error for that quantity (±0.016°C/decade). Impacts on the changes of the annual Land-Ocean temperature index (global surface air temperature) were about 5 to 10 times smaller than the margin of error for those estimates.
Please note that neither the land data nor the ocean data used in this analysis are the ones used in the NCEI paper "Possible artifacts of data biases in the recent global surface warming hiatus" that appeared on June 4, 2015. For the ocean data, GISS still uses ERSST v3b rather than the newer ERSST v4, but will switch to that file next month, when we add the June 2015 data; the collection of land station data used in that paper includes many more sources than GHCN v3.3.0 and will probably be incorporated into a future GHCN v4.
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